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If you want budget, look at my rigs. I'm the king of budget. and fx cpu's id recommend strongly against for budget. now phenom x4, id strongly recommend for a budget.

Are you near microcenter? Do you live in the us (or are you in israel...)?

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ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ = $85
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Samsung Green 1600 2x4gb RAM Of Course! - $50
Rosewill CAPSTONE Series CAPSTONE-550 550W Continuous @ 50°C, 80 PLUS GOLD Certified - $80 on newegg right now, a steal!
Fractal Design Define R4 - $109 best case for the money hands down.
Win 7 - $100
AMD 7870 Ghz - $220

Do you need an optical drive?

$1,014 and a sweet rig.

ew 840? 840 pro or 830 is better. rosewill capstone psu for $80 is way too expensive and way too much. fractal design for $109, that's ridiculous, too expensive for this build. why not get the gtx 470 for a budget card? as powerful as the 7850, slightly weaker than the 7870, half the price.

OP, i have a few questions you should answer so we can really help you build a right build:

1. Do you live near a microcenter? Do you live in the US? Are you comfortable buying used/ebay, or amazon? The best way to make a budget build is buying smart. Not everything from ebay, not everything from newegg, but the best parts from the best sources. Most things are best bought new but really ram...... good to buy used. heatsinks sometimes too. really just the ram and that's $20.

2. How much storage space do you need? How much are you using on your current computer (go to my computer, hit properties on c drive, tell me what it says, how much used of how much available). The more storage you need, the lower quality drive you can buy. For example my gaming rig only used 50gb in 3 years, so I got an 80gb ssd and used the extra cash to get an i7.

3. What games or programs, specifically, do you use? The computer you build for crysis is going to be a lot different than a computer built for starcraft or total rome. A computer might crush crysis 3 with a very cheap, low end cpu and high end gpu, while struggle to do sc2, on the flip side you can do sc2 on high settings with all in the cpu and a $20 GPU so it makes a big difference.

4. What resolution do you play on.

5. what settings do you want to play. Do you need bleeding edge, maxed out, or just high and good value? Or do you just want to play games, a real budget computer? I mean you can make something stronger than an xbox 360 for under $200, it'll handle any game on medium just fine (it wont do high, and it'll struggle with the most intensive of games, but it'll play anything up to a certain level at least and most games just fine, depending on what you play).

6. How much RAM do you need? I would strongly recommend you buy 4GB of RAM for a budget computer - this is because games can only use 2gb of ram because they are written to be compatible with 32bit OS. RAM is cheap but it'll get cheaper in the future, if you ever needed more you could easily buy more for half the price of what it is today. Games wont be using 8gb of ram anytime soon, so for a purely gaming build, there is no reason to get 8gb of ram. Save the money, put it in a better cpu, gpu, etc.

7. do you plan on overclockign? Do you enjoy overclocking, do you want to avoid it, or are you doing it just to get some extra value and it's just a chore to you?

8. Do you really need an optical drive? I haven't used cds in years, i mean they are like floppies these days.... cut that money out, use it somewhere else.

You can basically follow my sig rigs for builds. I got a $500 i7-3770K build here. The GPU is a bit on the weaker side but that's because this computer is optimized for streaming and I play cpu intensive games like sc2, not gpu intensive ones. But just make my build, and then use a $120 GTX 470 from geeks.com or $100 on ebay, and that'll perform like a 7850 or close to a 7870 for half the price, with an i5 that'll make it under $600. Under $700 if you include OS.

As for a heatsink:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1364978/newegg-xigmatek-gaia-sd1283-cpu-cooler-19-99-with-free-shipping/0_100
xigmatek gaia for $20, but I'd honestly just wait a week for another heatsink deal to come up. the havik at $60 is overpriced, you can find high end coolers on sale for less than that. It's a good cooler, I've used it, but I just would not pay $60 for it.
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If you want budget, look at my rigs. I'm the king of budget. and fx cpu's id recommend strongly against for budget. now phenom x4, id strongly recommend for a budget.

Are you near microcenter? Do you live in the us (or are you in israel...)?
ew 840? 840 pro or 830 is better. rosewill capstone psu for $80 is way too expensive and way too much. fractal design for $109, that's ridiculous, too expensive for this build. why not get the gtx 470 for a budget card? as powerful as the 7850, slightly weaker than the 7870, half the price.

OP, i have a few questions you should answer so we can really help you build a right build:

1. Do you live near a microcenter? Do you live in the US? Are you comfortable buying used/ebay, or amazon? The best way to make a budget build is buying smart. Not everything from ebay, not everything from newegg, but the best parts from the best sources. Most things are best bought new but really ram...... good to buy used. heatsinks sometimes too. really just the ram and that's $20.

2. How much storage space do you need? How much are you using on your current computer (go to my computer, hit properties on c drive, tell me what it says, how much used of how much available). The more storage you need, the lower quality drive you can buy. For example my gaming rig only used 50gb in 3 years, so I got an 80gb ssd and used the extra cash to get an i7.

3. What games or programs, specifically, do you use? The computer you build for crysis is going to be a lot different than a computer built for starcraft or total rome. A computer might crush crysis 3 with a very cheap, low end cpu and high end gpu, while struggle to do sc2, on the flip side you can do sc2 on high settings with all in the cpu and a $20 GPU so it makes a big difference.

4. What resolution do you play on.

5. what settings do you want to play. Do you need bleeding edge, maxed out, or just high and good value? Or do you just want to play games, a real budget computer? I mean you can make something stronger than an xbox 360 for under $200, it'll handle any game on medium just fine (it wont do high, and it'll struggle with the most intensive of games, but it'll play anything up to a certain level at least and most games just fine, depending on what you play).

6. How much RAM do you need? I would strongly recommend you buy 4GB of RAM for a budget computer - this is because games can only use 2gb of ram because they are written to be compatible with 32bit OS. RAM is cheap but it'll get cheaper in the future, if you ever needed more you could easily buy more for half the price of what it is today. Games wont be using 8gb of ram anytime soon, so for a purely gaming build, there is no reason to get 8gb of ram. Save the money, put it in a better cpu, gpu, etc.

7. do you plan on overclockign? Do you enjoy overclocking, do you want to avoid it, or are you doing it just to get some extra value and it's just a chore to you?

8. Do you really need an optical drive? I haven't used cds in years, i mean they are like floppies these days.... cut that money out, use it somewhere else.

You can basically follow my sig rigs for builds. I got a $500 i7-3770K build here. The GPU is a bit on the weaker side but that's because this computer is optimized for streaming and I play cpu intensive games like sc2, not gpu intensive ones. But just make my build, and then use a $120 GTX 470 from geeks.com or $100 on ebay, and that'll perform like a 7850 or close to a 7870 for half the price, with an i5 that'll make it under $600. Under $700 if you include OS.

As for a heatsink:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1364978/newegg-xigmatek-gaia-sd1283-cpu-cooler-19-99-with-free-shipping/0_100
xigmatek gaia for $20, but I'd honestly just wait a week for another heatsink deal to come up. the havik at $60 is overpriced, you can find high end coolers on sale for less than that. It's a good cooler, I've used it, but I just would not pay $60 for it.

Some good suggestion in there. The corsair CX500 is a good PSU but, not as good a PSU as my suggestion. But, like was pointed out it is $20 cheaper. As for the other suggestions, if you can find the parts cheaper that is always good rolleyes.gif.

The 470 is not very close to a 7870, it is 25% slower I would say on average. If you are going to splurge on any one part, you will see the most benefit from splurging on a GPU for a gaming rig. Good luck thumb.gif
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SSD and budget isn't a very Doable option. IMO you should start with what's more important and then upgrade later.
here is my suggestion. it's 1050 USD but you can change the ram or get a lower version GPU. but this build would keep you going solid for 2 years and then you can add another GPU and go solid for one more year.

1-CPU: I5 3750K
2- Mobo: Gigayte DH3
3- Ram: Corsair Vengeance 8GB
4- CPU Cooling: CM 212EVO
5- GPU: Sapphire 7950
6- HDD: 1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM
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9- optical drive: ANYthing for 20$.
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Now that's a great build. Just goes to show how much you can save if you shop around. Also got to love thous Microcenter prices. thumb.gif I would bump up to the 7950 even though its not as good bang for buck. Does that 7870 XT come with any games? The GIGABYTE 7950 that I listed comes with Crysis 3 + Bioshock Inf so there is a little added value there wink.gif

The 7870 XT comes with Bioshock and Tomb Raider but it's OOS at Newegg right now but cheaper at SuperBiiz (not listed on PCPartPicker):
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=AT-7870XT2

Even without the Microcenter rebate the build is <$900 so it's all good. smile.gif
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AMD FX-8350 - $200
ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ = $85
SAMSUNG 840 Series MZ-7TD250BW 2.5" 250GB - $170
Samsung Green 1600 2x4gb RAM Of Course! - $50
Rosewill CAPSTONE Series CAPSTONE-550 550W Continuous @ 50°C, 80 PLUS GOLD Certified - $80 on newegg right now, a steal!
Fractal Design Define R4 - $109 best case for the money hands down.
Win 7 - $100
AMD 7870 Ghz - $220

Do you need an optical drive?

$1,014 and a sweet rig.
I must agree with this, except get the 7870 XT edition, its faster and slightly cheaper. I approve of this build as its exactly what I would have chosen for you.

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Some good suggestion in there. The corsair CX500 is a good PSU but, not as good a PSU as my suggestion. But, like was pointed out it is $20 cheaper. As for the other suggestions, if you can find the parts cheaper that is always good rolleyes.gif.

The 470 is not very close to a 7870, it is 25% slower I would say on average. If you are going to splurge on any one part, you will see the most benefit from splurging on a GPU for a gaming rig. Good luck thumb.gif
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Are we in the AMD Section or am I mistaken?

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CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: NZXT HAVIK 140 90.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.48 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($73.52 @ Amazon)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($52.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Full (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $833.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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The PSU is overkill but it's on sale (through judging by your avatar if you're in Israël you're not gonna find Rosewill products there), it would be fine for future Crossfire.

You could bump the video card to a 7950 if you want. The 7870 XT is the model right under but has a better value for money.

It doesn't look as if you included the cost of the GPU. $1,050 roughly by my calculations. Still a great build for the price!
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Looking for a good PSU, check my sig.

Good call, the sticky PSU FAQ in the PSU forum is one of the best resources on OCN. It is very well kept up. I didn't run any numbers but off the top of my head the potential build will draw a little under 400w under maximum load. Maybe a bit more if you are OCing.
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Q6600 G0 1.275vid @ 3.6Ghz Gigabyte UD3R MSI 4870 1g (852/995) 2x2gb G.Skill 1066 PC2 8500 
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post #18 of 19
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It doesn't look as if you included the cost of the GPU. $1,050 roughly by my calculations. Still a great build for the price!

I actually did, the huge discount is on various rebates and on the CPU, only if you pickup at Microcenter in-store only.
Ti-89 Titanium
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Motorola 68k @16 MHz Ti-89 HW4 256 KB 2.6 MB Flash ROM 
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Ti-89 OS 3.10 LCD Dot-Matrix 160x100 4x 1.5V AAA Ti-89 HW4 Black 
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Intel Core™ i7 930 Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R 2.0 Gigabyte GTX 470 SOC G.Skill RX 2x4GB 1600C8 
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PNY Prevail Elite 120GB Hitachi 7K1000.C 1TB LG GH24LS50 Noctua NH-C12P SE14 
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Windows 8 Pro x64 Lubuntu 13.10 x64 Samsung BX2250 Logitech Illuminated 
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Ti-89 OS 3.10 LCD Dot-Matrix 160x100 4x 1.5V AAA Ti-89 HW4 Black 
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Intel Core™ i7 930 Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R 2.0 Gigabyte GTX 470 SOC G.Skill RX 2x4GB 1600C8 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
PNY Prevail Elite 120GB Hitachi 7K1000.C 1TB LG GH24LS50 Noctua NH-C12P SE14 
OSOSMonitorKeyboard
Windows 8 Pro x64 Lubuntu 13.10 x64 Samsung BX2250 Logitech Illuminated 
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I actually did, the huge discount is on various rebates and on the CPU, only if you pickup at Microcenter in-store only.

Ahh, ic. You confused me by not listing a price for it and all your other parts add up to about $813, before taxes and shipping.
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Q6600 G0 1.275vid @ 3.6Ghz Gigabyte UD3R MSI 4870 1g (852/995) 2x2gb G.Skill 1066 PC2 8500 
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250gb Barracuda/150 VRaptor Vista Home Premium 64 46" LCD HD Antec NeoPower 650w Modular 
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Antec 900 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q6600 G0 1.275vid @ 3.6Ghz Gigabyte UD3R MSI 4870 1g (852/995) 2x2gb G.Skill 1066 PC2 8500 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
250gb Barracuda/150 VRaptor Vista Home Premium 64 46" LCD HD Antec NeoPower 650w Modular 
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Antec 900 
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