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In an attempt to sort through the rumors and figure out just what happened to Colonial Marines, I've spent the past few weeks talking to people with connections to the game. Some preferred to talk off the record; others agreed to let me report what they said so long as I didn't use their names. And the story behind A:CM—a story of dysfunctional development, miscommunication, and conflicting visions—has grown increasingly clear.

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Fixed quote and source to Kotaku.
Edited by SpykeZ - 2/26/13 at 7:59pm
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I'm readin the article and all I'm getting so far is that timegate isn't a very good developer. Gearbox handed the project down and assumed they were competent enough not to be guided every single step of the way.
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Its still not as bad as the war z lol.
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I'm readin the article and all I'm getting so far is that timegate isn't a very good developer. Gearbox handed the project down and assumed they were competent enough not to be guided every single step of the way.

No, it sounds like scumbag Gearbox handed them a few assets and told Timegate to make a game shippable in about 1.5 years (end of 2010 to summer 2012), with some interference from SEGA urging them to make a more COD-like game. Maybe 1.5 years is long enough to make rehashes and mediocre games but definitely not for a good title.
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The man in this picture is Gearbox. The aliens are Aliens. The man is ignoring them to take a phone call about releasing Duke Nukem Forever.

I lol'd
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I'm readin the article and all I'm getting so far is that timegate isn't a very good developer. Gearbox handed the project down and assumed they were competent enough not to be guided every single step of the way.

It explicitly does NOT say that....

They didn't even have a script so that demonstrates the lack of work done.
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Aliens: Colonial Marines is heavily regarded as one of the biggest train wrecks in gaming history.

What in the world could be that bad about it for such a statement? I've barely seen it or rEAD ANYTHING ABOUT IT, BUt that implies everyone is talking about it and saying its garbage.


Whats wrong with it?
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Honestly, to me, its sounds like Gearbox was handed the product from Sega. Sega then wanted to control the development and narration of the game, leaving Gearbox in a situation of....

A) Work on this under the heel of Sega

B) Hand it to another studio that doesn't have anything on their plate, and continue working on a game they have absolute control of (Borderlands 2).

Everyone is so quick to point the finger at Gearbox, and now possibly this other studio, yet no one is looking at Sega. Have people forgotten that Sega ultimately had control of the product and what was to happen with it? Gearbox handed a project to another studio to do, that studio had conflicting direction and wasn't able to complete it. Gearbox then had to try and salvage the product in an extremely short period of time.

If anyone is to blame on this, it is Sega, and how they (mis)managed the game itself, through its entire life. It is a wonder that it actually made it to market at all!
    
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There's fault on all sides, but at the end of the day, the game failed because Gearbox decided Borderlands 2 was more important. A triple-A game is simply beyond Timebox's abilities, so giving them the project without a clear roadmap was suicidal for the project. If Timebox had been given a script and told "create the frame", 9 months would have been plenty for Gearbox to finish it. Telling a minor studio "here's the title of the game, make a AAA game and we'll finish it" is just a bad idea.
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What in the world could be that bad about it for such a statement? I've barely seen it or rEAD ANYTHING ABOUT IT, BUt that implies everyone is talking about it and saying its garbage.


Whats wrong with it?

Nothing to justify a statement like that, that's for sure, I thought it was ok personally...
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