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I don't think thats legal though, to purposely slow down ones service and offer theirs. Plus I didn't mention me running Crashplan until after she mentioned our account was flagged for P2P.

It is legal enough.

Or to state it in a slightly more defeatist way of the current state of the world, it is legal until you sue for damages ( and win, lolyearight).
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I don't think thats legal though, to purposely slow down ones service and offer theirs. Plus I didn't mention me running Crashplan until after she mentioned our account was flagged for P2P, which might I add wasn't running at all at that time.

It is perfectly legal, there is nothing that says an ISP can not filter certain content on their network, for any reason. I know of a very tiny ISP, a few hundred customers, out in an extremely rural area that filters WoW because he doesn't like video games. To boot any P2P traffic is throttled down to a 128K pipe, that all P2P must share.

He feels that video games are bad, and people have no reason to use P2P of any sort. He wants his network to be clean and only have "legitimate" traffic on it, in order to "ensure the best service for his customers". Frankly the only reason the guy is in business is because he is the only ISP for his area.
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I don't think thats legal though, to purposely slow down ones service and offer theirs. Plus I didn't mention me running Crashplan until after she mentioned our account was flagged for P2P, which might I add wasn't running at all at that time.



My guess is the Crashplan uploads triggered the throttling and once it gets throttled it probably stays that way until you call and find out what the deal is.

As to the legality of that...well, they probably were not specifically targeting your backup service, but they would had to have known that uploads like that would trigger the throttling. So I don't know.
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I dont download nor come close to my limit of bandwidth per month, and my ISP lets me download at full speed till I hit the 1.5gb thresh-hold....then it throttles down to 450kbs. So when I download my steam game i just purchased, it's like weeee!!!......f*#K.....20 hrs left...from 2MBs to 450KB, in no time...
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I dont download nor come close to my limit of bandwidth per month, and my ISP lets me download at full speed till I hit the 1.5gb thresh-hold....then it throttles down to 450kbs. So when I download my steam game i just purchased, it's like weeee!!!......f*#K.....20 hrs left...from 2MBs to 450KB, in no time...

This makes absolutely no sense.
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Good thing they aren't blocking P2P traffic, but just trying to catch pirate torrents/etc. then huh? Your rant is for naught.

What did you think torrent traffic was??? It's P2P - The goal is to prevent piracy- their method is one that will focuses on broadly attacking the whole P2P system. I've been warned once before for torrenting legit files for game betas. I've been warned another time when I had a traffic spike on my personal website (hosted via my home)....

No my rant isn't for naught- its quite the opposite, it's an opinion and I believe that's perfectly valid in a forum, particularly in a thread where my opinion on this matter is ENTIRELY relevant.

Also- just spotted this
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I dont download nor come close to my limit of bandwidth per month, and my ISP lets me download at full speed till I hit the 1.5gb thresh-hold....then it throttles down to 450kbs. So when I download my steam game i just purchased, it's like weeee!!!......f*#K.....20 hrs left...from 2MBs to 450KB, in no time...

- This has happened to me as well, we get 5-6MBs down on steam downloads, but after an hour doing that it will drop to 1MBs.

I've tested it w/ speed tests, we get throttled.



Does steam use a P2P system for downloads?
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If I was there, I would delete my entire Steam library everyday just to download it again. Then when they capped my internet for "suspected piracy" I would ask them to uncap it or to provide proof I have been pirating. If they don't then I would sue them for it.

Although they probably would have got around that by adding something in the ToS that allows them to do that.

Then you would never get to game or enjoy your internet? Good plan.
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And they think people will go out an buy their garbage content? Never! Times have changed and people need to adapt. I said this before. Old farts working at MPAA with hollywood agencies need to retire and just acknowledge the fact in front of their noses. People who download and share will not buy the content that they pirate anyway. *sigh*
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The problem here is that they're creating a system that gives them power to mess with you in a very simple manner. All your options for combating wrongfulness here take considerably more effort on your behalf. It doesn't really matter at the end of the day whether you actually pirated anything or not. They can cut you off with very little effort. Anything you choose to do at that point takes money or time or both.
It's difficult to combat a system that only goes one way.

This is the loss of freedom these days: you still have your rights, but they're hidden under a ton of legislation and procedures which discourage you to actually act upon them.
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This makes absolutely no sense.

It's been a long day....
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