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Originally Posted by The Pook View Post

Step 1) get email saying to 'stahp yer piracy'

Step 2) say you have an open wireless network and play computer illiterate

Step 3) loophole lul

correct me if I'm wrong, but an IP address cannot be used to prosecute you. an IP address isn't a finger print and theres no way to tell who downloaded the file. your ISP can terminate your service but that's about it.

there was a case I believe somewhere in europe where a woman tried that. I don't remember what the outcome was. I'll see what i can find about it.
Edited by Nenkitsune - 2/25/13 at 10:16pm
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"There are ways to disguise an IP address"

How exactly does one disguise their IP from the eyes of the ISP?
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"There are ways to disguise an IP address"

How exactly does one disguise their IP from the eyes of the ISP?

There isn't. You aren't ever truly disguised online. You have a trail. It leads somewhere. Just a matter of how deep someone wants to dig to trace.

And if they trace to your last *known* location, that doesn't guarantee you'll still be there. The only thing you have going for you, as an individual, is you can move around constantly.

But the VPN stuff doesn't make much of a difference due to the fact that traffic is *still* going through your ISP and they see it. It may take them time to figure out what it is if it's encrypted, but in my experience, nothing says 'hey, look at me!' like encrypted traffic going through my servers in large quantities.

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Just got a long e-mail from Charter. I aint scared.ninja.gif
crap, i didnt know charter was on this.
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There isn't. You aren't ever truly disguised online. You have a trail. It leads somewhere. Just a matter of how deep someone wants to dig to trace.

And if they trace to your last *known* location, that doesn't guarantee you'll still be there. The only thing you have going for you, as an individual, is you can move around constantly.

But the VPN stuff doesn't make much of a difference due to the fact that traffic is *still* going through your ISP and they see it. It may take them time to figure out what it is if it's encrypted, but in my experience, nothing says 'hey, look at me!' like encrypted traffic going through my servers in large quantities.

But, people will believe what they want to believe.

As far as I know, how it works is that anti-piracy agencies basically just connect to a torrents hive, mine all the attached IP's and then throw an infringement notice at the ISP. The ISP then forwards that onto the customer who is associated with that IP.
All of this, would of course be automated.

They all know that this isn't grounds for prosecution, so you can continue to just play dumb regardless of how many times it's happened.
However, and I can't remember if this DID come into affect or not; but in the U.K they wanted to make it a three strike rule. So regardless of your pleas, you'd be disconnected.

As for the VPN and being impossible to hide your IP, you're right. You can't. Everything leaves a trace. You can't cover your tracks. But Mr. Smith down the road downloading his weekly viewing of Downton Abbey or some nonsense, isn't going to have a team of people tracing his traffic as he bounces his connection around to hide his IP.
It's just not viable for anyone involved.

That's my understanding of it anyway. Correct me if I'm wrong. I likeses to learn! :]
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It's so stupid because anyone can hack a wireless connection or spoof an IP address and not to mention people getting viruses and all the plugins like flash, java that get hacked and people who don't know any better get exploited and just because they don't know any better they are liable for it ? Verizon sets up peoples wireless when you sign up and they use WEP for wireless which can be cracked in less than 5 minutes so how would someone who doesn't know any better be responsible ? I think that is just wrong if you ask me saying ok your IP downloaded this you're responsible is complete crap.
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yarr a threatening letter be the least of me worries on the high seas.
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Peerblock is a placebo at best....

Here in Australia, we've already had this happening for YEARS now.

It's quite funny. We seem to be the last to advance, but the first to move backwards.

In the words of Jubal Early; Does that seem right to you?
E-cookie for the person who genuinely gets the refference without using Google. ;p

Aaaaggh! Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

Firefly, of course. I can't believe I'm the first to win the e-cookie!

Also, Cox has been doing this for years, and it really doesn't mean much unless you torrent regularly from RIAA/MPAA feeding grounds, like piratebay or something. I distinctly remember years back, my roommate FREAKING out and destroying a hard drive because he got a letter from Cox, and he thought the FBI was going to knock down our door.

I still make fun of him for it.
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As far as I know, how it works is that anti-piracy agencies basically just connect to a torrents hive, mine all the attached IP's and then throw an infringement notice at the ISP. The ISP then forwards that onto the customer who is associated with that IP.
All of this, would of course be automated.

They all know that this isn't grounds for prosecution, so you can continue to just play dumb regardless of how many times it's happened.
However, and I can't remember if this DID come into affect or not; but in the U.K they wanted to make it a three strike rule. So regardless of your pleas, you'd be disconnected.

As for the VPN and being impossible to hide your IP, you're right. You can't. Everything leaves a trace. You can't cover your tracks. But Mr. Smith down the road downloading his weekly viewing of Downton Abbey or some nonsense, isn't going to have a team of people tracing his traffic as he bounces his connection around to hide his IP.
It's just not viable for anyone involved.

That's my understanding of it anyway. Correct me if I'm wrong. I likeses to learn! :]

It's true. You are as hidden as much to the extent as someone wants to put forth the effort to find you.
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The article speaks of sharing, but the title speaks of downloading. Just don't seed for copyrighted material. Nothing has changed of what the ISPs have been saying they would do. There is nothing new in this article.
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