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I never said it was technically "legal".

But if your having trouble downloading a FLAC of the MP3 you already bought or a lesser quality 1080p copy of a Bluray disk you have (or ripping what you already payed for) then there isn't a solution for you.

Those ARE the solutions.

If you bought the song, you bought the damn song. Just you want a higher quality version isn't illegal in my books.
If you bought the movie, then you own the damn movie. Saving a copy, for backup and instant watch (not uploading it obviously), to your hard disk is not a crime in my books.

Your missing the entire point of this thread.

WE ARE FORCED TO DO THINGS ILEGALLY BECAUSE THEY WILL NOT OFFER ANY LEGAL OPTION.

If they would sell digital FLAC formate music then people would buy them. But they don't and won't so people will obtain them illegally.

Same with HD movies in full 1080p Format. THEY DO NOT OFFER A LEGAL WAY TO OBTAIN THEM. So we do it illegally.

Nothing you have suggested is legal, So I might stop while your ahead lol.

Also, Here in america you cannot make digital copy's of movies, music or anything. IT IS ILLEGAL. So the last few posts you have made are entirely pointless.
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I never said it was technically "legal".

But if your having trouble downloading a FLAC of the MP3 you already bought or a lesser quality 1080p copy of a Bluray disk you have (or ripping what you already payed for) then there isn't a solution for you.

Those ARE the solutions.

If you bought the song, you bought the damn song. Just you want a higher quality version isn't illegal in my books.
If you bought the movie, then you own the damn movie. Saving a copy, for backup and instant watch (not uploading it obviously), to your hard disk is not a crime in my books.

Your missing the entire point of this thread.

WE ARE FORCED TO DO THINGS ILEGALLY BECAUSE THEY WILL NOT OFFER ANY LEGAL OPTION.

If they would sell digital FLAC formate music then people would buy them. But they don't and won't so people will obtain them illegally.

Same with HD movies in full 1080p Format. THEY DO NOT OFFER A LEGAL WAY TO OBTAIN THEM. So we do it illegally.

Nothing you have suggested is legal, So I might stop while your ahead lol.

If you bought the song or the movie, I find it hard to believe it should be illegal to obtain a digital version of what you paid for.
We live in the digital age, don't we?

So places don't sell FLACs. What are you going to do about it?
As long as iTunes sells 1,000,000 MP3s daily, then they won't bother increasing bandwidth for FLAC hosting.
I'm simply stating that those are the options you have today. Whether you like it or not.

A lot of the laws that make these actions illegal are so vague it's hard to tell what it even encompasses.

Also, you should read this.
Edited by kennyparker1337 - 3/2/13 at 5:53pm
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If you bought the song or the movie, I find it hard to believe it is illegal to obtain a digital version of what you paid for.

So places don't sell FLACs. What are you going to do about it?
As long as iTunes sells 1,000,000 MP3s daily, then they won't bother increasing bandwidth for FLAC hosting.

A lot of the laws that make these actions illegal are so vague it's hard to tell what it even encompasses.

That is the entire reason behind all the rage in this forum.

A LOT of the crap the industry is up in arm's about is their own doing.

If they would offer higher than MP3 quality people would legally obtain them. Same with movie files. We are only offered crap for legal alternatives.

The legalitty of ripping music and moves has sparked something new.

Amazon offer's a digital format DL's for anyone who bought a CD, however this is still a craptastic MP3 so people who want FLAC will legally buy the media, Then illegally rip that music to FLAC or what ever.
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I haven't illegally downloaded music since Limewire back in like...2008. I've recently gotten on the Google/play bandwagon. Is it that hard Are people so cheap that they can't buy songs instead of ripping off the artists they apparently enjoy?
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I wouldn't worry about AT&T and if you were to receive ANYTHING from them I highly suggest you challenge it. I work for AT&T and no matter how 'scary' it sounds the closets thing we have to figuring out where you went online or what you transferred is nothing but a ton of IP addresses. There is NO WAY on earth we can tell what you typed, where you went or anything else about your usage outside of Data and IP Addresses.
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Originally Posted by kennyparker1337 View Post

If you bought the song or the movie, I find it hard to believe it is illegal to obtain a digital version of what you paid for.

So places don't sell FLACs. What are you going to do about it?
As long as iTunes sells 1,000,000 MP3s daily, then they won't bother increasing bandwidth for FLAC hosting.

A lot of the laws that make these actions illegal are so vague it's hard to tell what it even encompasses.

That is the entire reason behind all the rage in this forum.

A LOT of the crap the industry is up in arm's about is their own doing.

If they would offer higher than MP3 quality people would legally obtain them. Same with movie files. We are only offered crap for legal alternatives.

The legalitty of ripping music and moves has sparked something new.

Amazon offer's a digital format DL's for anyone who bought a CD, however this is still a craptastic MP3 so people who want FLAC will legally buy the media, Then illegally rip that music to FLAC or what ever.

On a side note I was offered a promotion for 3 free songs from Amazon.

So I chose some ZZ Top and the started the downloads... only except it didn't download any files.
Try to download them again and...
After about 30min I realize that you are only allowed to download the MP3 I didn't pay for once.

So I wasn't even able to get the 3 crappy MP3s I was promised.

Hah! Jokes on them... [you know the rest]
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That is the entire reason behind all the rage in this forum.

A LOT of the crap the industry is up in arm's about is their own doing.

If they would offer higher than MP3 quality people would legally obtain them. Same with movie files. We are only offered crap for legal alternatives.

The legalitty of ripping music and moves has sparked something new.

Amazon offer's a digital format DL's for anyone who bought a CD, however this is still a craptastic MP3 so people who want FLAC will legally buy the media, Then illegally rip that music to FLAC or what ever.

No offense, but it sounds like you're looking for an excuse to pirate. Amazon gets you your cd's usually within a week, and gives you a DRM-free copy of 256kbps to enjoy while you wait. Not only that but they allow you to have access to your cloud on up to 10 devices. If you think it can possibly get any better than that you're delusional. These are the right's we've been begging for for over a decade.

Is ripping cd's illegal? Technically yes, but no more illegal that jaywalking. From RIAA's own website:
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Burning a copy of CD onto a CD-R, or transferring a copy onto your computer hard drive or your portable music player, won’t usually raise concerns so long as the copy is made from an authorized original CD that you legitimately own or the copy is just for your personal use.

No one likes to stick to the man more than me but you at least should have a valid complaint..
    
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No offense, but it sounds like you're looking for an excuse to pirate. Amazon gets you your cd's usually within a week, and gives you a DRM-free copy of 256kbps to enjoy while you wait. Not only that but they allow you to have access to your cloud on up to 10 devices. If you think it can possibly get any better than that you're delusional. These are the right's we've been begging for for over a decade.

Is ripping cd's illegal? Technically yes, but no more illegal that jaywalking. From RIAA's own website:
No one likes to stick to the man more than me but you at least should have a valid complaint..


First off, 256kbps IS NOT flac. If I want the flac file I have to commit a crime, It does not matter how petty this crime is, If I want audiophile quality digital media, I must break the law.

This is not "why" I pirate stuff, only one of many many reason's (some of them were posted in this thread......). So no I am not delusional, not to mention your insult is un-merited and i'm questioning why you would resort to personal attacks, rather than intelligent debate.

Good luck rolleyes.gif
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First off, 256kbps IS NOT flac. If I want the flac file I have to commit a crime, It does not matter how petty this crime is, If I want audiophile quality digital media, I must break the law.

This is not "why" I pirate stuff, only one of many many reason's (some of them were posted in this thread......). So no I am not delusional, not to mention your insult is un-merited and i'm questioning why you would resort to personal attacks, rather than intelligent debate.

Good luck rolleyes.gif

Forgive me if I offend.

We all know 256kbps is not FLAC... i stated it's a "loaner" until your music arrives. That's quite a compromise. Bottom line, you mentioned FLAC as justification for piracy when it's not. You can purchase cds and rip them yourself.. I also like how you sidestepped the most important part: The RIAA clearly states they aren't targeting rippers. That completely nullifies the example you gave so you can stop using the breaking the law argument.

Now, someone saying they download cd's because they just don't want to pay for them is a valid argument. The morality is debatable but it doesn't make it any less truthful.
    
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while the debate of what is illegal/legal is raging on, has anyone checked their ISP's TOS?
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Copyright / Intellectual Property Infringement
The federal Digital Millennium Copyright Act (“DMCA”) directs how online service providers
like (my ISP) address online copyright infringement. As required by the DMCA, we have
adopted a policy to suspend or terminate broadband services to account holders or subscribers
who repeatedly infringe copyrights. Customers against whom (my ISP) receives a total of thirty
(30) DMCA infringement allegations within the prior ninety (90) days will be subject to the
suspension of their Internet service for up to two (2) calendar days.
If a customer contests a complaint of infringement in accordance with the DMCA, the
complaint will not count toward that account’s infringement total, unless: (i) it is
determined by a court that the complaint was valid; or (ii) the account holder later agrees
that the complaint was valid.
(my ISP) accommodates and does not interfere with standard technical measures to
identify and protect copyrighted works, subject to the limitations of the Act.

wow 30 "allegations" for a 90 day period . . i think i can live with that.
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