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I have a i7 970 6 core @ 3.2gig, I have intel speed step turned off in the bios and the bios shows my cpu @ 3.20 gig.
now when I run CPU-Z it shows my cpu @ 3207.36 mhz with multiplier @ x24.0 which are correct readings.
at the same time I have real temp gt open and it shows my cpu jumping up and down from1764.03mhz to 2258.08mhz.
so it would seem that real temp is not a very good program so should i trust it's temp readings as I turned off speed step
so i can overclock my cpu but i would like to be sure i get correct temp readings and now i dont trust real temp.
is there a better temp reading program? I tried hw in the past but it's not reading things correctly either as the way it reads my
psu my computer shouldn't even be running.

thanks for any help
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Believe it or not, Real Temp is more accurate than CPU-Z.  So, it's normal.

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post #3 of 34
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Originally Posted by jlhawn View Post

I have a i7 970 6 core @ 3.2gig, I have intel speed step turned off in the bios and the bios shows my cpu @ 3.20 gig.
now when I run CPU-Z it shows my cpu @ 3207.36 mhz with multiplier @ x24.0 which are correct readings.
at the same time I have real temp gt open and it shows my cpu jumping up and down from1764.03mhz to 2258.08mhz.
so it would seem that real temp is not a very good program so should i trust it's temp readings as I turned off speed step
so i can overclock my cpu but i would like to be sure i get correct temp readings and now i dont trust real temp.
is there a better temp reading program? I tried hw in the past but it's not reading things correctly either as the way it reads my
psu my computer shouldn't even be running.

thanks for any help

So it goes from 1.7 to 2.2? What are the temperature readings? You didn't provide those, unless if you are only concerned with your core clock. If so, the computer is just downclocking to save power when idle.

I don't fully understand what you are looking for.
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So it goes from 1.7 to 2.2? What are the temperature readings? You didn't provide those, unless if you are only concerned with your core clock. If so, the computer is just downclocking to save power when idle.

I don't fully understand what you are looking for.

my point is with intel speed step turned off in the bios it should not downclock and cpu-z shows that it is not, but real temp shows that it is.
so i am not sure if i should trust real temps temp readings when i start overclocking if it can't even read my cpu clock speed correctly.
so what i am looking for is if there is a better temp software?
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Believe it or not, Real Temp is more accurate than CPU-Z.  So, it's normal.

but how can it be normal when intel speed step is turned off? turning off speed step keeps your cpu at is max rated mhz.
when speed step is turned on and i run prime 95 both cpu-z and real temp show my cpu mhz exactly the same.
so maybe real temp just isn't good at reading cpu mhz but is good at reading temps yes?
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post #6 of 34
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but how can it be normal when intel speed step is turned off? turning off speed step keeps your cpu at is max rated mhz.
when speed step is turned on and i run prime 95 both cpu-z and real temp show my cpu mhz exactly the same.
so maybe real temp just isn't good at reading cpu mhz but is good at reading temps yes?

 

It's common with ASUS motherboards that if you disable Speedstep, it is still enabled even though your setting says Disabled.  There's no know fix for this.

 

The reason why it's the same when running Prime95 is, it's under full load.

 

Ask "unclewebb" here on OCN about Real Temp's accuracy vs. CPU-Z.  He is Real Temp's creator (or co-creator, I forget).

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I guess if you have a sabertooth you can disable cause I can on mine and it stays disabled.
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It's common with ASUS motherboards that if you disable Speedstep, it is still enabled even though your setting says Disabled.  There's no know fix for this.

The reason why it's the same when running Prime95 is, it's under full load.

Ask "unclewebb" here on OCN about Real Temp's accuracy vs. CPU-Z.  He is Real Temp's creator (or co-creator, I forget).

I've never heard of ASUS boards doing that, but trust in TwoCables. He knows all. thumb.gif
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Unclewebb taught me about this bug with ASUS motherboards.  Even if your setting says "Disabled", it's really still enabled.

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It's common with ASUS motherboards that if you disable Speedstep, it is still enabled even though your setting says Disabled.  There's no know fix for this.

The reason why it's the same when running Prime95 is, it's under full load.

Ask "unclewebb" here on OCN about Real Temp's accuracy vs. CPU-Z.  He is Real Temp's creator (or co-creator, I forget).

yes but when prime 95 is at idle with speed step on the cpu is at 1740 on both cpu-z and real temp, and when i start prime 95 both show it goes up to 3207 as it should therefore i know speed step is working.
but with speed step off cpu-z is showing my cpu at 3207 at idle which is correct but real temp shows it at jumping up and down from 1764 to 2258 which is not correct. this is also the case on my wifes computer as i just tried it and her system which has a EVGA mother board. I guess i will just ignore real temp when it comes to cpu clock readings and just use it for temps.
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