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he probably has to buy the discs n stuff frown.gif

Nothing to see here...I get uncapped DSL, but at 2Mb/s I pull my hair out whenever Starcraft 2 or Battlefield push an update out. In fact, I was a late adopter with BF 3, and I had to download like 4 GB just to be able to play my game...Pretty much a whole day wasted waiting for that.

Still, our ISP's haven't started this rubbish yet, so I guess I should be thankful for small mercies.
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Do strikes ever go away ?


Get a strike and X amount of months later it goes away?
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Hollywood hardly puts out any movies worth the disk space.
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read on another similar thread that apparently the ISP's are sending your info to federal authorities too
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Originally Posted by Master__Shake View Post

why do americans liken every law to baseball??

is that all they understand?

Hey...I can't stand baseball wink.gif
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post #36 of 96
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read on another similar thread that apparently the ISP's are sending your info to federal authorities too

Pirating is not what this is all about. Spying on Americans is. Think about it.

Remember the privacy-invasive bill previously known as CISPA—now called the “cybersecurity” bill? The bill that carves a loophole in all known privacy laws and grants legal immunity for companies to share your private information. Think about that coupled with the new HUGE NSA data center in Utah and what this will allow them to do.

I'm looking at this from an IT perspective and I'm more concerned about the insane abuse of power and privacy that comes with this. They have had this ready now for quite a while, they just needed a green light to go ahead and make it legal to spy on you. All ISP's already have had the capability of monitoring any and everything you do on the internet either at home or on a mobile device, and now they are telling us that they're going to intrusively monitor anyone's private peer to peer traffic and general internet usage any time they wish and share that information.

So under the guise of 'possible violations of intellectual property rights' ,they now have the keys to the kingdom to spy on whoever they wish for whatever reason suites them. Not to mention accuse, prosecute and/or cut off as well. The fourth amendment is officially dead. This will be so ripe for abuse it's not even funny! Consolidation of power and the makings for outright tyranny is so out in the open these days, it's right in our face!! But it's always sold to the people under a different name, usually promising protection or safety.
Edited by ]\/[EGADET]-[ - 2/28/13 at 3:59pm
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So.....who wants to start their own ISP with me?!
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The funny thing is.

It's not government, it's corporations.

People are so quick to let corporations abuse them as long as it isn't "that obomer and big guberment."

It's both. Corporations and government are in bed together.
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Got some news of my own (don't worry it's completely relevant to this). Just completed my personal "self-reliance" data acquisition. Most of which was p2p (hey you know any other way to download big files with a slow connection?). I'll post any static I happen across.
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Quote from gnu.org's "Misinterpreting Copyright - A series of Errors"
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In practice, the goal of maximizing publication regardless of the cost to freedom is supported by widespread rhetoric which asserts that public copying is illegitimate, unfair, and intrinsically wrong. For instance, the publishers call people who copy “pirates,” a smear term designed to equate sharing information with your neighbor with attacking a ship. (This smear term was formerly used by authors to describe publishers who found lawful ways to publish unauthorized editions; its modern use by the publishers is almost the reverse.) This rhetoric directly rejects the constitutional basis for copyright, but presents itself as representing the unquestioned tradition of the American legal system.

The “pirate” rhetoric is typically accepted because it so pervades the media that few people realize how radical it is. It is effective because if copying by the public is fundamentally illegitimate, we can never object to the publishers' demand that we surrender our freedom to do so. In other words, when the public is challenged to show why publishers should not receive some additional power, the most important reason of all—“We want to copy”—is disqualified in advance.

As a practical matter, the goal of maximization enables publishers to argue that “A certain practice is reducing our sales—or we think it might—so we presume it diminishes publication by some unknown amount, and therefore it should be prohibited.” We are led to the outrageous conclusion that the public good is measured by publishers' sales: What's good for General Media is good for the USA.
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Once the publishers have obtained assent to the policy goal of maximizing publication output at any cost, their next step is to infer that this requires giving them the maximum possible powers—making copyright cover every imaginable use of a work, or applying some other legal tool such as “shrink wrap” licenses to equivalent effect. This goal, which entails the abolition of “fair use” and the “right of first sale,” is being pressed at every available level of government, from states of the US to international bodies.

This step is erroneous because strict copyright rules obstruct the creation of useful new works. For instance, Shakespeare borrowed the plots of some of his plays from works others had published a few decades before, so if today's copyright law had been in effect, his plays would have been illegal.

Even if we wanted the highest possible rate of publication, regardless of cost to the public, maximizing publishers' power is the wrong way to get it. As a means of promoting progress, it is self-defeating.
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The current trend in copyright legislation is to hand publishers broader powers for longer periods of time. The conceptual basis of copyright, as it emerges distorted from the series of errors, rarely offers a basis for saying no. Legislators give lip service to the idea that copyright serves the public, while in fact giving publishers whatever they ask for.

For example, here is what Senator Hatch said when introducing S. 483, a 1995 bill to increase the term of copyright by 20 years:

I believe we are now at such a point with respect to the question of whether the current term of copyright adequately protects the interests of authors and the related question of whether the term of protection continues to provide a sufficient incentive for the creation of new works of authorship.

This bill extended the copyright on already published works written since the 1920s. This change was a giveaway to publishers with no possible benefit to the public, since there is no way to retroactively increase now the number of books published back then. Yet it cost the public a freedom that is meaningful today—the freedom to redistribute books from that era.

The bill also extended the copyrights of works yet to be written. For works made for hire, copyright would last 95 years instead of the present 75 years. Theoretically this would increase the incentive to write new works; but any publisher that claims to need this extra incentive should be required substantiate the claim with projected balance sheets for 75 years in the future.

Needless to say, Congress did not question the publishers' arguments: a law extending copyright was enacted in 1998. It was officially called the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act, named after one of its sponsors who died earlier that year. We usually call it the Mickey Mouse Copyright Act, since we presume its real motive was to prevent the copyright on the appearance of Mickey Mouse from expiring. Bono's widow, who served the rest of his term, made this statement:

Actually, Sonny wanted the term of copyright protection to last forever. I am informed by staff that such a change would violate the Constitution. I invite all of you to work with me to strengthen our copyright laws in all of the ways available to us. As you know, there is also Jack Valenti's proposal for term to last forever less one day. Perhaps the Committee may look at that next Congress.

The Supreme Court later heard a case that sought to overturn the law on the grounds that the retroactive extension fails to serve the Constitution's goal of promoting progress. The court responded by abdicating its responsibility to judge the question; on copyright, the Constitution requires only lip service.

Another law, passed in 1997, made it a felony to make sufficiently many copies of any published work, even if you give them away to friends just to be nice. Previously this was not a crime in the US at all.

An even worse law, the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), was designed to bring back copy protection (which computer users detest) by making it a crime to break copy protection, or even publish information about how to break it. This law ought to be called the “Domination by Media Corporations Act” because it effectively offers publishers the chance to write their own copyright law. It says they can impose any restrictions whatsoever on the use of a work, and these restrictions take the force of law provided the work contains some sort of encryption or license manager to enforce them.

But yea I guess this all falls under "the constitution is outdated let's get rid of it."
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