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Will a 60mm radiator +25mm fans fit in the 85mm ventilated top? Are there any issues with then mounting a second set of 25mm fans inside the case for push/pull? Sorry, may be a dumb question. I'm preparing for my first WC loop.
post #2 of 10
That should work fine wink.gif
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Thank you, sir. Sorry, one more question I neglected to ask: I want to ensure the case I select will accommodate EATX and XL-ATX (in addition to standard ATX of course). Does that rule out any of M8, M10 or T10? It appears from your website that the M8 would not work. Can you confirm that the M10 and T10 would both of those and anything smaller? I just want to make sure either EATX or XL-ATX would fit and that there are holes for all the MB stand-offs.

Thanks!
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post #4 of 10
EATX is one of those "gray" areas and depends on how you define it. A true EATX board is 13" deep and will not fit in anything but one one of our "H" series cases. Most enthusiast "EATX" boards however, are really just oversized ATX. As long as the board does not exceed 12.00" x 10.75", you'll be fine and that includes the vast majority of motherboards. If you're considering a 2P EATX MB, then you'll need one with an HPTX tray.
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post #5 of 10
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So is it safe to say that if the case motherboard tray is at least as large as the enthusiast board I'm considering, the tray will have the proper stand-offs pre-drilled, whether the board claims to be ATX, EATX, SSI-CEB, or XL-ATX?

Don't mean to belabor the point. I just want to make sure I'm not making too many assumptions where a $500 case purchase is concerned. wink.gif
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Yes thumb.gif
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post #7 of 10
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Ok, I'm leaning toward the M10. I considered the T10, but this case is going to have to sit on my desk, and I'm seriously considering adding a pedestal and trying to set up a mini- or micro-ATX board in it for use as a server. I know I've seen a build log around here where someone else did it, but can't find it now for the life of me. My desk is a large, L-shaped steel HON office desk, so the width and depth of the M10 should be fine. I just need to avoid going too tall with the case. My office is pretty small, and the way it's laid out, keeping the case on my desk is the only way to give me ready access to it.

In considering the M10, I'd be giving up some rad/fan space above and below the motherboard so that I can leave my options open for some of the larger boards in the future. Therefore, I started working out what I can do on the PSU side. Plying my uber l337 Paint.Net haxxorz skills, I came up with the following, using UT60 360 rads in push/pull. I may be able to use Monsta 360's, if I throw in a few 90 deg. fittings. The pump and res will be on the motherboard side, of course. I think the connecting tube between the rads will fit behind the drive cage ok, but I can't judge that too well from the photos on the Caselabs site. Can anyone tell me if there might be any pitfalls with this approach?

post #8 of 10
I think the M8/M10 with pedestal is taller than the T10 (I remember seeing picks comparing a M10 with pedestal v. a TH10 and the M10 with pedestal was taller).

If height is the main issue but you want more space take a look at the MH10.
post #9 of 10
FYI I'm still debating which case to go with...mine will be on my desk, width is probably my biggest issue but I really like the double-wides
post #10 of 10
Well ask yourself this,

Are you planning on doing more than two way SLI?

If so, get the M10.

If not, get the M8 since it has more clearance above the motherboard for a RAD without the need for an extended top.
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