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the write speed is rubbish but the price is good. its 125 quid.
theres also a kingston v+200 with better specs but i think was released earlier

i want a good drive that has fast startup and can load games but doesnt break the bank, so far everything apart from these have been 170 quid

(240/256gb models)
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Have a look at the Pro version, it's more expensive but it's the one that I would go for if I were to upgrade right now.

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/256gb-samsung-840-pro-series-basic-25-ssd-7mm-3-core-mdx-21nm-toggle-nand-read-540mb-s-write-520mb-s

The price usually reflects it's performance so you get what you pay for I guess. That may be why the standard 840 is quite a bit cheaper that others of the same capacity.
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I picked up a corsair Neutron for $190 on sale, it's the 240 model. I find it works great. The thing about 840s vs the pro is it has a shorter lifespan (~5 year's from what I've read). I don't know any specifics, perhaps the 840 owner's club will serve you well.
    
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the write speed is rubbish but the price is good. its 125 quid.
theres also a kingston v+200 with better specs but i think was released earlier

i want a good drive that has fast startup and can load games but doesnt break the bank, so far everything apart from these have been 170 quid

(240/256gb models)

Kingston just recently released the budget-minded SSDNow V300, and it got pretty decent reviews...
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I picked up a corsair Neutron for $190 on sale, it's the 240 model. I find it works great. The thing about 840s vs the pro is it has a shorter lifespan (~5 year's from what I've read). I don't know any specifics, perhaps the 840 owner's club will serve you well.

It's not as simple as that. Expected years of service is dependent on how much data you write to the SSD everyday. On a conservative estimate, here are the minimum writes available on the Samsung 840s.

Samsung 840 (TLC 1,000 P/E cycles)
120GB: 120TB
250GB: 250TB
500GB: 500TB

Samsung 840 Pro (MLC 3,000 P/E cycles)
128GB: 384TB
256GB: 768TB
512GB: 1,536TB or 1.5PB

To put things in perspective, I think I've written around 4-5TB in the 2 years I've used my Intel X25-M 120GB (WAF ~1.1-1.2). At 2.5TB writes per year, the Samsung 840 120GB, would last me 48 years. The Samsung 840 Pro 128GB, 154 years.
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yeah i read about 5years but then i read about how its false

also thank for pointing out the v300 - its only 450mbps reads though :/

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The 840 has slow writes comparatively, but it's still faster than you'll get out of high RPM drives. It really depends on what you are doing with it. If you are using it for basic browsing and gaming, you don't need the high writes, few people do. Read speed is what's important, TBH. For me, the faster writes were not worth the premium considering my budget, so I went with the non-pro, and I'm very satisfied.

At the same price point, the Sadforce equipped SSDs have higher specs, but it would be taking more of a reliability risk.

As for the cooler, you can't go wrong with the 212 Evo. The heat pipe layout is much better than the 212+. If you are looking at alternatives, the Xigmatek Dark Knight II is suppose to be a very good cooler for just a little more cost.
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The 840 has slow writes comparatively, but it's still faster than you'll get out of high RPM drives.

Really, the Samsung 840 is still comparable to sequential writes on Crucial m4 and it's probably better than SandForce drives when dealing with incompressible data.
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yeah i read about 5years but then i read about how its false

also thank for pointing out the v300 - its only 450mbps reads though :/

the corsair neutron is 196 quid $_$

Why oh why do so many people still think that sequential, large file read and write speed is all that matters, or that those speeds are what the SSD is able to do constantly, regardless of file size or type of data being dealt with? rolleyes.gif

So 250MB/s is rubbish, but 500MB/s is so much better? Sure, that would save you two seconds on a one GB file, in theory.
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AW: is the samsung 840 a good choice for windows and program files?

From all mentioned SSDs I would recommend 840. It's reliability is over the top. And you will not suffer from the lower write speeds. Reading is what counts most. And IOPS of course.
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