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I am starting to buy the rig that will house my haswell build this june. I've got my power supply, case(fractal R4) and cable sleveing. Now I'm diving into cooling. The R4 will house a slim 240 up top and with some modding a 280 rad(of any thickness because I will not have mechanical drives in this build) on the front. I will be cooling a gpu and the haswell chip.

This is what I've put together so far an I'm actually supprised at what it already costs and I haven't even added cpu block, gpu block or the compression fittings.

2xScythe Gentle Typhoon 120mm x 25mm Fan - 1850 RPM (D1225C12B5AP-15) ($29.00)
XSPC Dual 5.25" Bay Black Reservoir - w/ D5 Variant Pump Installed ($159.99)
Black Ice GT Stealth 280 Radiator - Black ($79.95)
Black Ice GT Stealth 240 Radiator - Black ($59.00)
PrimoChill PrimoFlex Advanced LRT Tubing 3/8"ID x 5/8" OD - 10ft Retail Pack - Elegant White ($24.99)
Total: $352.93

What I need help with is lowering the price some. What radiators would you suggest at a lower price point that would still give me a good performance. Is the pump/res I picked any good at all? Is there a cheaper bay res/pump I could use that would get the job done. Is the tubing I picked good quality/price and is it a good thickness?

The color theme of this build is black and white.

Updated parts and prices
2xScythe Gentle Typhoon 120mm x 25mm Fan - 1850 RPM (D1225C12B5AP-15) ($29.00)
XSPC Dual 5.25" Bay Black Reservoir - w/ D5 Variant Pump Installed ($139.95)
HW labs Black Ice SR1 280 ($99.95)
Black Ice GT Stealth 240 Radiator - Black ($48.00)
Total: $316.90
Edited by packerbackermk - 2/27/13 at 8:15am
post #2 of 6
If you want to lower the price, get all the loop components used here off the OCN market. you can save a TON of money that way, and you inject money into the OCN economy, win win win.

also, I have a bad habbit of just skimming over OPs, but if you arent using any optical drives, you can get a 360mm radiator in the front of the R4 with very little modification.

Also, i always just go to my local hardware store and buy tubing from there, i had a loop going for 3 years with it and never had a problem. paying $25 for 10' of tubing is absolute madness. at home depot you can get 10' of tubing for like $3, my local homedepot also has black tubing that looks really nice.

you could get a triple radiator in the front and a dual rad in the top, and get lower FPI radiators and get 1000 rpm fans and have your computer be nearly silent.

im going to be using the bitfenix recon fan controller to turn 8 of my 11 fans off at idle, then when i start to game, the fans will turn on automatically and back off when i stop gaming.

Another way you can save a ton of money is to just get regular barbs instead of compression fittings, a budget loop and compression fittings just dont really go in the same sentence. you can get 10 barbs for like $20 on the OCN market...

EDIT.


KCCO!
Edited by Sean W. - 2/27/13 at 3:42am
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I'm really trying to buy as much as I can below the price of new on OCN or ebay because I have a long wait for haswell. I might as well take my time pick up the parts and get them at a low price.

I don't want to lose my bays. I know optical drives are a thing of the past but I want to keep the bays open because I want to leave room to add a mechanical drive in the 5.2 bay in the future if I decide I want the space. I also think a 240 and a 280 should keep things cool enough even with quiet in mind.

I will drop that tubing and just grab some of the cheep stuff from the hardware store. For as cheep as you say it is if I decide I want better tubing I'd still save money because I can just measure the amount of tubing in the loop and order the better stuff by the foot instead.

The R4 comes with a simple fan controller that would allow me to set the fans to 5v when I'm not putting a heavy load on. I'm going to see if that is effective enough to avoid buying an additional controller. I think it will do me just fine.

I'll consider going the barb route but I really like the look of compression fittings. I might mix it up. Maybe the fittings on the GPU/CPU blocks compression and the rads/res/pump just barbs.
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Originally Posted by packerbackermk View Post

I'm really trying to buy as much as I can below the price of new on OCN or ebay because I have a long wait for haswell. I might as well take my time pick up the parts and get them at a low price.

I don't want to lose my bays. I know optical drives are a thing of the past but I want to keep the bays open because I want to leave room to add a mechanical drive in the 5.2 bay in the future if I decide I want the space. I also think a 240 and a 280 should keep things cool enough even with quiet in mind.

I will drop that tubing and just grab some of the cheep stuff from the hardware store. For as cheep as you say it is if I decide I want better tubing I'd still save money because I can just measure the amount of tubing in the loop and order the better stuff by the foot instead.

The R4 comes with a simple fan controller that would allow me to set the fans to 5v when I'm not putting a heavy load on. I'm going to see if that is effective enough to avoid buying an additional controller. I think it will do me just fine.

I'll consider going the barb route but I really like the look of compression fittings. I might mix it up. Maybe the fittings on the GPU/CPU blocks compression and the rads/res/pump just barbs.

get an external dvd burner and keep it in a drawer when you dont need it then if the situation ever comes up when you need it, bam, plug it into a usb drive do its thing then put it away. lets you use all the unused realestate in your case for cooling! thumb.gif

the fan controller on the R4 is a very, VERY basic controller, all it does is move a piece of metal around between the 5, 7 and 12 volt wires of a molex connector. Thats basically all it is, there is a little bit of a circuit board, but thats how it does it. i wouldnt plug more than 4 fans into that... Also, manually changing the speed of your fans everytime you do something intensive, gets old quick!


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whoa whoa whoa... wait.

are you going to be installing this water loop on your sig rig?
Edited by Sean W. - 2/27/13 at 4:55pm
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My sig rig is not what I'm working with, don't even have that rig anymore its several years old. I'm building a rig in preparation for haswel this June. I know the fan controller is very basic but it does everything I want it to do. If I need more functionality in the future then I'll upgrade but I don't seen that as something I'll end up doing, and I will only have 4 fans in the case. I think the 280 and the 240 is plenty of rad to cool one gpu and one cpu.
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2xScythe Gentle Typhoon 120mm x 25mm Fan - 1850 RPM (D1225C12B5AP-15) ($29.00)
HW labs Black Ice SR1 280 ($99.95)
Black Ice GT Stealth 240 Radiator - Black ($48.00)
Swiftech MCP655 ($76.95)
Swiftech MCRES-MICRO REV2 Clear ($22.63)
Total: $276.53

This is my new and improved list of parts. I'm still not sure if i'm picking the right radiators.
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