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They also have a Corsair VS550 550W for $65 compared to the Antec High Current Gamer 520w for $83.
Im like WHAT!? :/ because your getting 30 more watts for less price (even though I don't really need the power)

So they both do the job, stay quite, can be mounted on the bottom Faced-down with the fan blowing air out of the case.
Then wouldn't I go with the cheaper one?

And Another Question:
I just Realized whats the difference between these RAM's?
They're al Corsair, same brand, and 2x 4GB for $69
Corsair 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz CL9 Low Profile Vengeance - Black (CML8GX3M2A1600C9)
Corsair 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz CL9 Vengeance - Cerulean Blue (CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B)
Corsair DDR3 8GB (2x Vengeance 4GB) 1600MHz CL9 (CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9)

And this is $82 2x 4GB:
Corsair 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 2133 CL11 Vengeance (CMZ8GX3M2A2133C11B)

So yea now I got to figure out what RAM I should get.

As I recall, Corsair's VS series is their absolutely lowest-quality line of models, much worse than their CX line. It's basically a 240v-only model that's largely targeted at SE Asia. Do not buy it!

As for the first group of three $69 Corsair 8GB kits of RAM in your post, the latter two are identical except for the color (-C9B = blue, -C9 = black), and the first model is just a low-profile variant of it (CML- = low profie, CMZ- = high profile). All three are functionally-identical 2x4GB DDR3-1600 kits with 9-9-9-24 timings @ 1.5 volts. It's pretty standard good-quality RAM.

The last, $82 one is similar to the first three but runs at a higher speed (DDR3-2133) with looser timings (11-11-11-27). It's really not worth the $13 price differential, as there are diminishing returns on speed once you get over DDR3-1600 and is really noticeable solely with synthetic benchmarks...
Edited by svenge - 3/29/13 at 4:35am
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As I recall, Corsair's VS series is their absolutely lowest-quality line of models, much worse than their CX line. It's basically a 240v-only model that's largely targeted at SE Asia. Do not buy it!

As for the first group of three $69 Corsair 8GB kits of RAM in your post, the latter two are identical except for the color (-C9B = blue, -C9 = black), and the first model is just a low-profile variant of it (CML- = low profie, CMZ- = high profile). All three are functionally-identical 2x4GB DDR3-1600 kits with 9-9-9-24 timings @ 1.5 volts. It's pretty standard good-quality RAM.

The last, $82 one is similar to the first three but runs at a higher speed (DDR3-2133) with looser timings (11-11-11-27). It's really not worth the $13 price differential, as there are diminishing returns on speed once you get over DDR3-1600 and is really noticeable solely with synthetic benchmarks...

You see, I don't really understand what to look at when buying RAM besides 1600Mhz being the standard speed - if thats does mean its speed. Then what do timing means and "Latency" or whatever.....

And well if you don't mind just pick me the best 2x 8GB RAM Centrecom has on their website.

Based on all the feedback & advice you have given me, I would trust your choice of RAM for our build.

And I scrapped his DVD/CD drive from his current Acer computer:


Im a little concerned about how to connect it up if it had the Belt connected to it whereas mine uses a SATA Cable I think....
Or should I just get a SATA LG from Centrecom for $27
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"Belt", lol, I like it. That was an IDE cable in its day, and then a PATA cable...Not many new motherboards would have them now. Nothing wrong with a $27 LG SATA DVD.
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Yeah, that's an old IDE drive, it won't work with the Gigabyte motherboard selected (or almost any modern one for that matter). Theoretically you could get some adapters for it, but you'll be better served with just getting a new, modern SATA-based DVD drive.

Regarding the "best" memory to get from Centrecom, I'd pick the Corsair Vengeance LP CML8GX3M2A1600C9. It's sufficiently fast (1600MHz is fine), meets all the criteria that I deem important (height, voltage, timings) and is the most cost-effective product to fully meet the needs of the system. The particularly nice thing about that set is that it's rather low-profile, which will make it easier to install with a aftermarket HSF.
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Yeah, that's an old IDE drive, it won't work with the Gigabyte motherboard selected (or almost any modern one for that matter). Theoretically you could get some adapters for it, but you'll be better served with just getting a new, modern SATA-based DVD drive.

Regarding the "best" memory to get from Centrecom, I'd pick the Corsair Vengeance LP CML8GX3M2A1600C9. It's sufficiently fast (1600MHz is fine), meets all the criteria that I deem important (height, voltage, timings) and is the most cost-effective product to fully meet the needs of the system. The particularly nice thing about that set is that it's rather low-profile, which will make it easier to install with a aftermarket HSF.

Alright then, new DVD Drive it is.

If then don't have that RAM what would be your second Choice? (just in case)

And we will be buying our parts hopefully sometime this week...
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My backup RAM choice would be the blue Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B or its black-colored counterpart (without the "B" at the end of the model).

If you have any more questions before going shopping, let us know.
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My backup RAM choice would be the blue Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B or its black-colored counterpart (without the "B" at the end of the model).

If you have any more questions before going shopping, let us know.

Ok now Im a little lost.....

Before you said don't buy one of those RAM's, but now your saying the other 2 are your second choices?

I would also point out I like any brand except the Computer guy at the store talked me out of buying G.Skill RipsJaw (G.Skill DDR3 8GB (2x4GB) PC-19200 2400MHz Trident X (F3-2400C10D-8GTX)) for my build because of something to do with their design blah blah blah o& and micrchips - don't really remember,
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Ok now Im a little lost.....

Before you said don't buy one of those RAM's, but now your saying the other 2 are your second choices?

I would also point out I like any brand except the Computer guy at the store talked me out of buying G.Skill RipsJaw (G.Skill DDR3 8GB (2x4GB) PC-19200 2400MHz Trident X (F3-2400C10D-8GTX)) for my build because of something to do with their design blah blah blah o& and micrchips - don't really remember,

What I said was that all three Corsair Vengeance DDR3-1600 models (the low-profile black and the high-profile blue and black models) were of equal quality and suitability, with the tiebreaker going to the low-profile model due to easier installation with an aftermarket HSF.

I recommended against the Corsair Vengeance blue DDR3-2133 kit due to its higher price and extremely marginal benefit.

As for that Trident X RAM, it is a bit temperamental and didn't play well with early Z77 BIOS releases if I recall correctly.
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What I said was that all three Corsair Vengeance DDR3-1600 models (the low-profile black and the high-profile blue and black models) were of equal quality and suitability, with the tiebreaker going to the low-profile model due to easier installation with an aftermarket HSF.

I recommended against the Corsair Vengeance blue DDR3-2133 kit due to its higher price and extremely marginal benefit.

As for that Trident X RAM, it is a bit temperamental and didn't play well with early Z77 BIOS releases if I recall correctly.

Alright now Im not confused anymore.

Ummmmm....
Have you got anything to say about Sold State Drives as in, what really matter like the IOPs it can read and write or which is best brand or best to buy at [URL=http://]Centrecom[/URL]

A Kinsgonston Hyperx 120GB is what I got, even though I want a Samsung 840 120GB.....but the store guy said the read speed was really slow.
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Actually, it's the write speed of the Samsung 840 (non-Pro) that's really slow, its read speed is actually pretty good (on par with any other decent SSD).

Anyhow, that HyperX 3K is a higher-end drive with 2-bit-per-cell MLC NAND and has much better performance than the 840 non-Pro, which uses 3-bits-per-cell TLC NAND. A quick example of its performance is the "AS SSD" Copy Test, which gives these results:
Code:
             GAME PROGRAM ISO
840 non-Pro   161     102 161   
HyperX 3K     388     320 360
SSDNow V300   305     192 169

If you can fit the HyperX 3K 120GB model that you have into the budget for the new rig, I'd get that model. My back-up suggestion would be the Kingston SSDNow V300 120GB, which is their next model down and $10 less expensive. It's also a MLC NAND model and should outperform the 840 as well.
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