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I haven't kept up with the memory market. I'm making a new system for the first time in years.

What are the "good" ICs to get? What are some kits which contain these ICs?
Money isn't a major concern, but I refuse to pay double for that last percentage point increase in real world performance.
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Well, 16GB might be a bit much, what are you going to do with the system?

And check out the Samsung "Miracle" RAM, seems to have great performance for a low price.
   
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Depending on what you are doing determines if you really need 16gb. If it is a gaming rig only, you will be fine with 8gb. The samsung memory is great ram, it is short, but it does not have the pretty covers on it. It can be hard to find because everyone is buying it up quickly.

If you do really need or just want 16gb (2x8gb) of ram, then I would just go with GSkill or use 4 sticks (4x4gb) of the Samsung. Either way you decide to go, you should be able to OC just fine.

Personally, I am thinking about sometime this year replacing my 8gb of Samsung to something larger like 16gb+. I am seeing a Ramdisk in my future. yessir.gif
     
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Lots of multi-tasking, statistical analysis of large data sets, gaming.

I fully intend to max it out to 32gb in time. Just not now.
Edited by xlink - 2/27/13 at 5:26pm
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Get a CORSAIR ram works good with mine. Make sure you meet the specific QVL for your motherboard needs to get the best performance.
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Originally Posted by xlink View Post

What are the "good" ICs to get? What are some kits which contain these ICs?
For 8Gb modules, there are three main choices for "good" ICs:

1) Micron D9QMT (not sure about the naming). Frequently seen on 1600 8-8-8 and 1866 9-9-9 rated Crucial Ballistix. G.Skill and Corsair might use these on 1866C9 as well.
4Gb single-sided modules with these ICs can do 1066MHz 9-9-9 and 1200MHz 10-10-10, but I'm not sure if 8Gb modules can do the same.

2) Samsung revision B. Almost guaranteed on 1600 7-8-8, 1866 8-9-9, 2133 9-11-11 and 2400 10-12-12 rated G.Skills. Other models with similar specs might randomly oscillate between Hynix and Samsung.
Won't do much above these specs. At best, you'll be able to lower tRCD by one or two values.

3) Hynix MFR. Quite hard to find (unless you go for 2600+ rated 8Gb modules which currently are ridicilously expensive) since Samsung ICs above can do same specs.
At low freqs and low voltage will overclock roughly the same as Samsungs (only without the ability to lower the tRCD). Are also able to do 1300MHz+ (which Samsung can't), if that's your thing.
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Originally Posted by Sam OCX View Post

For 8Gb modules, there are three main choices for "good" ICs:

1) Micron D9QMT (not sure about the naming). Frequently seen on 1600 8-8-8 and 1866 9-9-9 rated Crucial Ballistix. G.Skill and Corsair might use these on 1866C9 as well.
4Gb single-sided modules with these ICs can do 1066MHz 9-9-9 and 1200MHz 10-10-10, but I'm not sure if 8Gb modules can do the same.

2) Samsung revision B. Almost guaranteed on 1600 7-8-8, 1866 8-9-9, 2133 9-11-11 and 2400 10-12-12 rated G.Skills. Other models with similar specs might randomly oscillate between Hynix and Samsung.
Won't do much above these specs. At best, you'll be able to lower tRCD by one or two values.

3) Hynix MFR. Quite hard to find (unless you go for 2600+ rated 8Gb modules which currently are ridicilously expensive) since Samsung ICs above can do same specs.
At low freqs and low voltage will overclock roughly the same as Samsungs (only without the ability to lower the tRCD). Are also able to do 1300MHz+ (which Samsung can't), if that's your thing.

Excellent. This was the type of post I was looking for.

I got relatively out of the loop during my last few (busy) years of college and I now finally have both the time and money to get back into things.


I now know to look for Samsung Revision B and Micron D9.

I am surprised that even after 6 years that Micron is still making the "good stuff". Most of my current RAM is micron based(some is Promos)
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I ended up going for the this - Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Profile Desktop Memory Model BLS2K8G3D1609ES2LX0
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/crucial-ballistix-tactical-lp-sport-vlp.html


got it RIGHT before they raised the price AND got it for 10% off. WIN.
Should OC to 2200 with OKish timings. I'm happy.

Thanks everyone.
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