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Imagine that, a 30 hour game?! wink.gif

I'm glad a lot of people are recommending the Missing Link DLC, the early reviews weren't very good so I didn't bother...but it sounds like several OCN'ers enjoyed it, I'll check it out.

I liked the dlc also i recall it was 4-6 hrs for 10 bucks so not bad at all.
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Very exciting news for us at DXAlpha

Can't wait.
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A friend of mine read somewhere that CBS is affiliated, so this should be the movie, not another game. Honestly I'm not sure I want to see a sequel to HR anyways unless it would be a direct prequel to Deus Ex 1 where you get to play as Paul Denton or something cool like that. Even then I'd be scared that they'd mess it up like with Invisible Fanbase. redface.gif
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Considering that the Missing Link was a big improvement over HR in a few ways (level design, resource management etc) i'm pretty excited to see what Eidos can do with this game. There are some things I would like fixed/changed though:

-Get rid of the sticky cover
-Fix the weapons system
-Get rid of the map marker system/adopt a better journal system
-Fix grindy xp system
-Improve the aug system (most were pointless getting)
-Design the plot in such a way that actions throughout the game had an impact later on and especially at the end
-Redesign the hacking minigame so it's not so banal
-Make the level design more like ML than HR

Fortunately they've admitted they weren't happy with some parts of the game so I'm guessing some of the problems mentioned will be amended in future releases.

The cover system was fine.
The weapons system was fine.
Map was fine
XP, was fine
Augments, I agree, some were pointless (the hacking ones were a bit moot).
Plot affecting games, yes, better than Endingtron-3000
I liked the hacking
The level designs were great. Especially the hubworlds.
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A friend of mine read somewhere that CBS is affiliated, so this should be the movie, not another game. Honestly I'm not sure I want to see a sequel to HR anyways unless it would be a direct prequel to Deus Ex 1 where you get to play as Paul Denton or something cool like that. Even then I'd be scared that they'd mess it up like with Invisible Fanbase. redface.gif

THEY HAVE AN INVISIBLE FANBASE????

i thought they were just non-existant tongue.gif
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The cover system was fine.
The weapons system was fine.
Map was fine
XP, was fine
Augments, I agree, some were pointless (the hacking ones were a bit moot).
Plot affecting games, yes, better than Endingtron-3000
I liked the hacking
The level designs were great. Especially the hubworlds.

The cover system was a joke and completely broken. It made combat completely one-sided, and allowed you to look around corners without exposing yourself at all (which defeated the purpose of stuff like the xray aug)

Most of the weapons were just point and click stuff with no real utility outside of slamming down the mouse key and filling someone up with lead. There wasn't anything outside the ordinary like silent throwing weapons, pepper spray, prods etc like there was in the original.

The level designs were linear as hell and a total injustice to the original game. Missing Link did a better job than HR when it came to designing levels with multiple pathways and solutions, instead of just either take a) corridor or b) vent that runs alongside said corridor.

Instead of rewarding people for completing objectives, regardless of how you did it, you get rewarded for grinding enemies and hacking, meaning people who want to play a decent character will have to go out of their way to farm up on Generic Bad Guys most of the game. Even worse, nonlethal handtohand tactics were rewarded more than others, meaning people who wanted to maximise their character would ideally do more of this. Pretty dumb for a game that is a successor to one that allowed freedom of action and multiple ways to approach problems, since it virtually railroaded you.

I liked the maps themselves, I found Hengsha to be very rewarding and very cyberpunky, I just had a problem with the way they set out missions

I dunno, I don't really like minigames for things like lockpicking and hacking because its hard to keep them fresh, especially when you are grinding them for experience. Becomes pretty monotonous since all of the hacking panned out the same way - unlocking nodes as fast as you can and using a stop or whatever when you were detected. It would've been more interested if there were fewer hacking opportunities and some of the other augs were actually useful (like the fortify one) to make the game seem a bit more tactical.
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^ Well I hope they take none of your suggestions into account, then. I thoroughly enjoyed the game as it was, and I'm a long time fan of the original (still have my vintage, cardboard boxed version in the garage).
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Most of the weapons were just point and click stuff with no real utility outside of slamming down the mouse key and filling someone up with lead. There wasn't anything outside the ordinary like silent throwing weapons, pepper spray, prods etc like there was in the original.

While I can see how someone might not like mini-games, I don't think the point about the weapons is correct. They did have a prod-like weapon, the stun gun. I thought that the stun gun + dart sniper + silenced pistol made for a fun combo, with each weapon quite different from one another. I thought they did a good job with weapons, as the assault rifle and PEP and sniper etc. all felt different...especially with mods, which were just common enough for my taste.
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While I can see how someone might not like mini-games, I don't think the point about the weapons is correct. They did have a prod-like weapon, the stun gun. I thought that the stun gun + dart sniper + silenced pistol made for a fun combo, with each weapon quite different from one another. I thought they did a good job with weapons, as the assault rifle and PEP and sniper etc. all felt different...especially with mods, which were just common enough for my taste.

The first time I used the PEP I didn't know what it was, I was very happy with the result biggrin.gif
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One comment:
Jensen must not have very good lung reserve- I mean, he gets winded so quickly when you sprint. Even though he recovers quickly, it was still really annoying to sprint, run & recover, sprint, run & recover, etc while making your way through the city-hubs.

Maybe the developers can allow unlimited sprinting while in non-combat mode (no enemies alerted or suspicious). That's all I'm saying.

Yeah, the boss battles: a non-lethal outcome would be appreciated, but it felt sooo good to beat Namir senseless. Just returning the favor after what he did to Jensen at the beginning of the game.
    
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