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Originally Posted by Cloudfire777 View Post

LOL that is depressing. The PS4 APU will be better than any AMD APUs out this year?

Whatever happens to "consoles have worse hardware than PC"?

Edit: Are they talking about 3D performance or CPU performance? If its 3D performance I understand it since its slightly faster than a 7850. If its CPU performance, thats a big LOL.
LOL, the console hardware is still worse then what Intel have to offer.
Most Intel CPU's will still demolish this.
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Don't you guys think that AMD should work on perfecting hybrid crossfire? What I'm afraid of (if I were to buy an APU) is that I would later want to put in a dedicated GPU in, and the APU would then just idle, wasting space, heat and money (unless I got a 6650 or whatever the single model you can crossfire is). It would also be great for their dedicated GPU sales, since you'd have to be dumb to go nVidia if you could get an AMD APU and add to your APUs power instead of replacing it.
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LOL, the console hardware is still worse then what Intel have to offer.
Most Intel CPU's will still demolish this.

really? I didn't know there was an intel cpu that had a 7850 on the same die?? If you are talking about raw cpu performance, well yea. But so will most of AMD's desktop processors. Jaguar is a low-power cpu, what else would you expect?
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Don't you guys think that AMD should work on perfecting hybrid crossfire? What I'm afraid of (if I were to buy an APU) is that I would later want to put in a dedicated GPU in, and the APU would then just idle, wasting space, heat and money (unless I got a 6650 or whatever the single model you can crossfire is). It would also be great for their dedicated GPU sales, since you'd have to be dumb to go nVidia if you could get an AMD APU and add to your APUs power instead of replacing it.

I think AMD needs to work on perfecting normal crossfire first lol. But seriously, stuff like Virtu MVP should help cure your apu woes. Although, I dunno how well it works with amd apu's.
Edited by Ultracarpet - 3/2/13 at 11:57pm
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Apu + dedicated gpu crossfire is the future. It would mean gaming wise it would beat a quad core with a hd7970. But use way less power and be cheaper.
 
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Isn't that question being answered by the title of this thread? lol, just trollin. I don't believe it's a derivative from bulldozer/piledriver. From all the very 'simple' architecture pictures amd so nicely provides simple folk like me, jaguar doesn't look anything like the bulldozer/piledriver ones. According to anandtech, "jaguar is a an evolution of the bobcat core"... and Wikipedia has it listed as the successor to "brazos 2.0".

/shrug
Maybe you can make more sense of it? I mean if AMD can fit 8 cores with 8 fpu onto one die... isn't that just bulldozer and piledriver... but better? Does steamroller still only have 4 fpu for the 8 cores? <-- just googled and saw that it has double the decoding hardware of bd/pd for each core so 8fpu for 8 cores.

the question is what is brazos 2.0 based of off. remember mobile spin offs get different names. it's a lot easier to trace architecture linage with Intel via Wikipedia.
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post #116 of 139
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really? I didn't know there was an intel cpu that had a 7850 on the same die?? If you are talking about raw cpu performance, well yea. But so will most of AMD's desktop processors. Jaguar is a low-power cpu, what else would you expect?
That's true but what i kind of didn't say which is my fault is that this kind of APU will not reach the market any time soon. Why would AMD need to sell 7850's and below if they can sell an APU. Loss of profit, unless it will be OEM only.
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Because the hd7850 would be the perfect crossfire partner?
 
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LOL, the console hardware is still worse then what Intel have to offer.
Most Intel CPU's will still demolish this.

Because Intel, despite it's reputation as a competent CPU maker, failed to convince Sony or Microsoft to use their CPU instead of AMD's APU. Most likely because it demanded too much, just like what the ultrabook manufacturers were complaining about Intel's high CPU prices.

Also, the APU is a true eight core. Given proper heavy threading and optimization, that can be a potent CPU for a while until newer CPUs start to beat it through sheer raw performance.

EDIT: Have you seen the recent Crysis 3's CPU benchmarks? The FXes actually came kinda close to Intel's offerings, unlike almost all of the other games that didn't support 4+ threads.
Edited by A Bad Day - 3/3/13 at 6:42am
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Because Intel, despite it's reputation as a competent CPU maker, failed to convince Sony or Microsoft to use their CPU instead of AMD's APU. Most likely because it demanded too much, just like what the ultrabook manufacturers were complaining about Intel's high CPU prices.

Because Intel has been on a high horse ever since the Core2 architecture.

AMD on the other side needs to gain trust and marketshare, thus they offer much more realistic options. Intel is '$1000 or GT(crap)O'.
   
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Because Intel, despite it's reputation as a competent CPU maker, failed to convince Sony or Microsoft to use their CPU instead of AMD's APU. Most likely because it demanded too much, just like what the ultrabook manufacturers were complaining about Intel's high CPU prices.

Also, the APU is a true eight core. Given proper heavy threading and optimization, that can be a potent CPU for a while until newer CPUs start to beat it through sheer raw performance.

EDIT: Have you seen the recent Crysis 3's CPU benchmarks? The FXes actually came kinda close to Intel's offerings, unlike almost all of the other games that didn't support 4+ threads.

Price isn't the only reason. Intel's APU's and drivers are worse than terrible. Neither MS nor Sony want to commit suicide, thus they use AMD's offerings not Intel's. And when drivers are properly optimised Intel's CPU's are demolished by AMD's. It takes Intel a much more expensive product to beat AMD.
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LOL, the console hardware is still worse then what Intel have to offer.
Most Intel CPU's will still demolish this.

Really? Why don't you prove that, rather than make random claims.
Edited by Liranan - 3/3/13 at 8:21am
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