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Sports are very important. At best it can give you a free education and make you millions. At worst it gives you a hobby. Somewhere in the middle, sports help your social life and even your professional career.

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Originally Posted by rusky1 View Post

I completely agree. 90% of my computer science classes are actually a combination of math and logic. In order to build a good program, one must have these building blocks so they can piece together a well thought-out project. Sure, knowing programming languages is essential, but you really don't get into the heart of these things till your senior year in college.

For computer programmers/engineers, the following skills are a MUST:

1. High level math (Calculus I, II, III, linear algebra)
2. Physics and Logic classes (allows you to apply math knowledge to solve real world problems)
3. Programming languages (Java, C++, Python)

That's the basics.



Great video!

To be a computer programmer, all you actually need is an understand of logic and how to break down problems into smaller steps.

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Sports are very important. At best it can give you a free education and make you millions. At worst it gives you a hobby. Somewhere in the middle, sports help your social life and even your professional career.

Same could be said about a lot of things....

"Programming is very important. At best it can give you a free education and make you hundreds of billions or even change the world. At worst it gives you a hobby. Somewhere in the middle, programming help your social life and has a very high probability of a professional career."


Note, that it is not quite a zero sum game.... people can do multiple things with their time.
Edited by DuckieHo - 2/28/13 at 9:32am
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Hah, Hahahaha, I had to learn mandatory English literature (Shakespeare over and over again along with useless poems) Physical education (Sports, GHeee another thing that [sarcasm] totally helped me in life [/sarcasm] Philosophy also useless, How to have awkward conversations in two countries i'll never go to (France and indonesia) and drama (Ie theater) All of these... useless as tits on a bull, Sorry but Coding isn't just one of the things modern schools need to teach, They should imo


Drop..
PE
Shakespeare
English literature
Languages other then English(The future will pretty much be two languages i would think, english and chinese as more countries adopt both) Sure it's fun to learn a differant language (sometimes, Ok rarely)But how many times will i ever use Indonesian and french if i never visit either.
Philosophy, Make it optional




Things they need to start teaching
Common sense
Working skills
Code(even just the basics)
Advanced mathematics, Everyone seems to suck without their calculator
Common sense
How to survive without electricity, Because it can and does go out.
AND HOW TO READ DAMNED WARNING SIGNS




PE is arguably one of the most important activities. It teaches leadership, social skills, self discipline, motivation, competition, and it also exposed kids to the reality of failure and how to deal with it. A structured PE program is very important. it's not just about exercise.

I agree with everything else you stated.
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I can't believe some of the comments I'm reading in here. Get rid of learning foreign languages? Get rid of PE? English literature? I wouldn't want some of you guys to have any say in what goes in my child's curriculum because the lot of you would rather have a kid learn something as specialized as coding than having them get the experience of learning a plethora of different subjects that they could potentially develop interest in. Humanities and things like physical education are a very important aspects of a child growing up and help them in ways that learning code can't. You learn things like sportsmanship in PE, which not only help with social skills, but also teaches humility and what it means to work in a team. Learning different languages helps expand your mind and understand a culture that isn't your own. I took an intro to Japanese in HS and I still remember some of the words taught in the class. It also helped me understand more about Japan as a modern society and not all the feudal era stuff people are so into. History is a necessity to have. How else are we supposed to learn how our respective country came to be, how the government formed, and how much the culture changed. You're taught the difference between a democracy and oligarchy in history. We learn how Hitler was able to come into power in a battered Germany in history. English literature is critical in helping a child understand reading comprehension and how to interpret a text. Coding provides NONEof that. I'm all for having optional electives in coding, but I will never see it more than that in high school education. It's not mandatory, and the core subjects will always take precedence over it.
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Originally Posted by Rayleyne View Post

Childhood obesity is a problem with Full-Retard parents, Not the schools, Sorry but Physical education teaches you nothing for the real world out there.
The only thing most people will say they learned about Health/PE was:
"Condoms? Put two on."
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I found out last night that coding IS taught at the SO's High School. They teach C++ (2 different level classes) and JAVA. They also teach electronic design including layout and masking. Of course her school also teaches wood shop, metal shop and drafting.

Most of these are due to the parents continued support (read $$) above and beyond their property taxes.
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I went to a high school in Texas and we had... a lot of coding and computer classes. Hell even in middle school in a small town in Ohio we had coding classes (which everyone with a MySpace took). I just graduated last year so I think a lot more schools are adding computer classes.

Same in Toledo when I went to school and I graduated 10 years ago. Even the school district I live in now has classes like that and they have agricultural as part of the school name.\

Edit: The others talking about dropping other classes are just nuts and complaining because they didn't like them.
Edited by Kirmie - 2/28/13 at 9:46am
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I can't believe some of the comments I'm reading in here. Get rid of learning foreign languages? Get rid of PE? English literature? I wouldn't want some of you guys to have any say in what goes in my child's curriculum because the lot of you would rather have a kid learn something as specialized as coding than having them get the experience of learning a plethora of different subjects that they could potentially develop interest in. Humanities and things like physical education are a very important aspects of a child growing up and help them in ways that learning code can't. You learn things like sportsmanship in PE, which not only help with social skills, but also teaches humility and what it means to work in a team. Learning different languages helps expand your mind and understand a culture that isn't your own. I took an intro to Japanese in HS and I still remember some of the words taught in the class. It also helped me understand more about Japan as a modern society and not all the feudal era stuff people are so into. History is a necessity to have. How else are we supposed to learn how our respective country came to be, how the government formed, and how much the culture changed. You're taught the difference between a democracy and oligarchy in history. We learn how Hitler was able to come into power in a battered Germany in history. English literature is critical in helping a child understand reading comprehension and how to interpret a text. Coding provides NONEof that. I'm all for having optional electives in coding, but I will never see it more than that in high school education. It's not mandatory, and the core subjects will always take precedence over it.

QFT

as long as its not enforced ... they can teach "how to fold cloth" i dont care lol

... as long as its not enforced lol


...imagine a Coding class ... do you know how many failed students will going to be ? lol like a whole generation like 2 yeas behind lol they will graduate from highschool @ 21 lol

and another thing that it should be looked into , the more coders arround , the cheaper is going to be the work remuneration , because of competition , its going to be a "normal" job and soon , its going to be just a Resume filler , same as "Computer Skills" back in the 90s , begining of 2000 lol

i still remember in school , people who uses computers where called nerds , and now ... look at us nerds ... all hipsters biggrin.gif
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im going off topic but i actually think there is a big link between technology and violence. Advancements in the digital social media sector causes human derealization and apathy..

That being said they are using the pioneers of programming as given examples and for every one of them that succeeded theres millions that have "failed". There needs to be skilled labor and other hands on non abstract subjects that rival programming...

if anything i think that programming might be one of the worst things for humanity..learning how to think like a computer pushes you away from being a human
Edited by Clipze - 2/28/13 at 9:48am
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Originally Posted by Athrun Zala View Post

I can't believe some of the comments I'm reading in here. Get rid of learning foreign languages? Get rid of PE? English literature? I wouldn't want some of you guys to have any say in what goes in my child's curriculum because the lot of you would rather have a kid learn something as specialized as coding than having them get the experience of learning a plethora of different subjects that they could potentially develop interest in. Humanities and things like physical education are a very important aspects of a child growing up and help them in ways that learning code can't. You learn things like sportsmanship in PE, which not only help with social skills, but also teaches humility and what it means to work in a team. Learning different languages helps expand your mind and understand a culture that isn't your own. I took an intro to Japanese in HS and I still remember some of the words taught in the class. It also helped me understand more about Japan as a modern society and not all the feudal era stuff people are so into. History is a necessity to have. How else are we supposed to learn how our respective country came to be, how the government formed, and how much the culture changed. You're taught the difference between a democracy and oligarchy in history. We learn how Hitler was able to come into power in a battered Germany in history. English literature is critical in helping a child understand reading comprehension and how to interpret a text. Coding provides NONEof that. I'm all for having optional electives in coding, but I will never see it more than that in high school education. It's not mandatory, and the core subjects will always take precedence over it.

I would assume the majority of people here are recluses..So any type of culture or humanitarian topic goes right over their heads
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