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I'm sorry but you're straying so far off the point you're bordering on incomprehensibility.
You were wrong deal with it, I can't stress this enough. You're acting like someone who go an F on a test and then waves the admission form to space camp to defend himself. Unrelated subjects are by nature unrelated. Trying to steer the argument away from it's origin will only make you less and less credible.


And in response to the last part of your post

Abs, I have those, they're protected by a couple of cm of fat I have no intention of getting rid off. My biceps and triceps are fancy enough, happens when you heat your house with fire wood and chop it yourself.
The Trapezius can act up some times but that's mostly due to my less than ergonomical position when trying to post stuff on OCN and watch TV at the same time. I must admit that I'm a bit disappointed with my Calf's as of late, many men have problem with building hefty Calves, mine looks like something out of 17th century fashion when ever I devote some time to them, Sadly this has become rarer and rarer since I absolutely hate thigh excerises. Something which more often than not results in severe Kneecap grinding cartilage pain.
You know what I really like? My shoulders, they're awesome, Being naturally v-shaped (sadly from a case of Pectus excavatum) My shoulders have always been a focal point of my physique, Now some people use dumbells, I have nothing about dumbells, but If you want to have real fun you grab an uncut piece of 2X4 and juggle it over your head, burns like something from Dante after awhile, that wobbly action sure is fine.

Where am i straying from the point?
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Goodness greatness what have we here?

PE = Physical Education
Not
Physical Ecersise
and definitely not
Penal Excess

This was what you said, and i countered it, and you are wrong, now you write a paragraph about some nonsense

also you forgot to take your medication.
post #162 of 276
Could you guys just honestly quit arguing about gym class? This is a tech forum not a national education meeting. It's gym class. Deal with it.

Anyway. I also believe that you have to be good at math to be good at programming. Someone who has bad math grades and is good at programming is usually very bored with and/or is just lazy with math.
     
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Man, my first computer science class taught three programming languages all at once in just a semester. It was a bit much to deal with, but it really helped me see how simple it can be to move problems into different coding languages to find solutions.
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Where am i straying from the point?

Remember how this started?
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Goodness greatness what have we here?

PE = Physical Education
Not
Physical Ecersise
and definitely not
Penal Excess

Strike 1
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you see those schedules for abs and swimming?
those arent schedules for sitting on a chair

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you see those schedules for abs and swimming?
those arent schedules for sitting on a chair

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Originally Posted by Clipze View Post

you know all about abs right?
I mean actually having abs, not talking about having them

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Now you're just trolling.

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Pretty sad that theres people that think "physical education" means "educating" yourself about physical activities from a chair.
This is how bad its gotten

Instead of Accepting that you were wrong about the Abbreviation you went full auto denial.
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This was what you said, and i countered it, and you are wrong, now you write a paragraph about some nonsense

Well sir two can play that game, If you make a personal attack on me I'll defend myself in a way i see fit, and that was a fitting way
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also you forgot to take your medication.

Classy
 
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I would imagine the physical education curriculum varies from one school to the next. In my high school, there were two required PE classes. One of them was entirely based on physical exercise and sports, while the other was learning in a classroom.
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Remember how this started?
Strike 1
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3
4
5
Instead of Accepting that you were wrong about the Abbreviation you went full auto denial.
Well sir two can play that game, If you make a personal attack on me I'll defend myself in a way i see fit, and that was a fitting way
Classy

You're a funny guy, surely i didnt know what the E in PE stands for.

You thought you were clever claiming that the E is for education and provided links to your little PDF files about research on the topic, only to lose at your own argument.

Now you resorted to some random nonsense saying i didn't know the "abbreviation" of what PE meant, please.

I went into denial where? YOU are the one that went into denial. PE INCLUDES physical activities, PE is a SYNONYM for gym glass. PERIOD.
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Instead of Accepting that you were wrong about the Abbreviation you went full auto denial.

I can't believe you are this thick. PHYSICAL EDUCATION, GOES HAND IN HAND WITH PHYSICAL EXERCISE.

There is no "abbreviation", you assumed that physical education and physical exercise are two different things, and were proven wrong.

Now somehow you are trying to flip it by saying i'm in denial, the links you provided to try to prove a point, HAD SCHEDULES FOR PHYSICAL ACTIVITIES, and they were ALL PE CLASSES.

YOU are the one in denial
post #167 of 276
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You're a funny guy, surely i didnt know what the E in PE stands for.
You thought you were clever claiming that the E is for education and provided links to your little PDF files about research on the topic, only to lose at your own argument.
Now you resorted to some random nonsense saying i didn't know the "abbreviation" of what PE meant, please.
I went into denial where? YOU are the one that went into denial. PE INCLUDES physical activities, PE is a SYNONYM for gym glass. PERIOD.
I can't believe you are this thick. PHYSICAL EDUCATION, GOES HAND IN HAND WITH PHYSICAL EXERCISE.

There is no "abbreviation", you assumed that physical education and physical exercise are two different things, and were proven wrong.
Now somehow you are trying to flip it by saying i'm in denial, the links you provided to try to prove a point, HAD SCHEDULES FOR PHYSICAL ACTIVITIES.
YOU are the one in denial
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uh PE IS physical exercise
 
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That statement wasn't to define it, i was saying that PHYSICAL EDUCATION (PE CLASS) IS PHYSICAL EXERCISE..AS IN, YOU ACTUALLY DO EXERCISE (ACTION) IN PE CLASS

I knew the abbreviation all this time if thats what you were trying to argue..

You actually assumed that someone didn't know the abbreviation of a class that everyone has to take?

We've been arguing 2 different things then this whole time..

Im actually quite shocked you thought i didn't know what it stood for..kinda moronic actually, a 3rd grader would know what it stands for.

This is perfect example of what programming does, i say "pe is physical education" and you assume that im defining it, taking the bigger picture completely out of context.
See even you started to read it like a computer, everyone else read it perfectly fine i bet. Everyone knows what PE stands for, to actually form an argument around what PE stands for is something a 3rd grader would do
Edited by Clipze - 2/28/13 at 1:42pm
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You have to pass PE to graduate high school.

Obesity problem solved.


Just ask Rayleyne he knows first hand about obesity

Passing PE doesn't fix anything. You can suck and still pass PE. It's a participation thing. That's why I find it really sad that people can flunk it. The only difficult part is some memorization. Obesity isn't a problem to be forcibly solved by schools.
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How about education gets more funding and schools teach everything? Just a thought.

No need. Up through high school is for teaching people that basics and how to think and act properly. HS adding some areas for people who want to have a step up for college or get a job out of HS is just a bonus. The only thing schools need for programming before college is a basic introductory type thing which a person could learn on their own anyways if they wanted. You get the specifics in college.

If anything the issues in school are more the format of the classes themselves. Like in a history class. If they put a lot of emphasis on memorizing dates then they are doing it wrong. It's more important to know why something happened than the exact time it happened. Granted a general idea of the date is important.
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Remember how this started?
Strike 1
2
3
4
5
Instead of Accepting that you were wrong about the Abbreviation you went full auto denial.
Well sir two can play that game, If you make a personal attack on me I'll defend myself in a way i see fit, and that was a fitting way
Classy

Well there is your problem! You failed the PE argument because you gave him too many strikes. He was supposed to be out at three.
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That statement wasn't to define it, i was saying that PHYSICAL EDUCATION (PE CLASS) IS PHYSICAL EXERCISE..AS IN, YOU ACTUALLY DO EXERCISE (ACTION) IN PE CLASS

I knew the abbreviation all this time if thats what you were trying to argue..

You actually assumed that someone didn't know the abbreviation of a class that everyone has to take?

We've been arguing 2 different things then this whole time..

Well to be fair your wording "IS PHYSICAL EXCERCISE" Pretty much rules out any other activity besides excercise.
Now I don't believe that PE should take place in Classrooms, but I do thinkt that it, as a subject should recieve a larger part of the curriculum and revolve more around Theoretical education.
I know that the US system of sports revolves around schools, I don't think that is necessarily a good idea except for small rural communities where the logistics of having multiple teams is close to impossible. My take on it as a former substitute teacher is that it's beneficial especially in PE to break the normal dynamics off the classroom. Now theres several reasons for this one of them is bullying, the imprint that bullying leaves connects with the activities in which it was most prominent. But you also have ADD and other more extrovert disorders who in such a setting becomes overtly problematic. Normal Classroom studies doesn't lend it self to violence in the same way as PE, not a fun thing to see when it happens and quite disturbing to have to react to (the amount of redtape connected to violent incidents is massive and the reprecussions can be devastating.)

The theoretical part of Physical education part, that which can take place in classrooms is a given, it gives pupils necessary knowledge about their bodies and how they should threat them but when it comes to practical excercise it should be kept away from the set group dynamics and be based more on personal preference.

In many ways PE as it is today is counter productive, it teaches that intimidation and strength equals leadership and act as an outlet for bottled up feelings.
 
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