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Not everybody loves coding..... heck I graduated and did great on java, C++ , asp and most languages. As soon as I started programming in the real world immediately I knew coding was not my thing lol, granted i like coding but it's not my passion so maybe that's why schools don't teach coding? it's not for everyone?
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Not everybody loves coding..... heck I graduated and did great on java, C++ , asp and most languages. As soon as I started programming in the real world immediately I knew coding was not my thing lol, granted i like coding but it's not my passion so maybe that's why schools don't teach coding? it's not for everyone?

Soccer isn't for everyone, Yet schools still force you into it, Or some other random sport.
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You cant keep all of the people happy all of the time. Some don't like sport, personally I hated music, I think that is the purpose of the education system, expose us to a little of everything and let us choose our own path in life.
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You cant keep all of the people happy all of the time. Some don't like sport, personally I hated music, I think that is the purpose of the education system, expose us to a little of everything and let us choose our own path in life.

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Music increase intellegence, and staying fit reduces health care costs and increase quality of life. Calculus is nice, but when the bulk of the population has a IQ of 100 or below, your not going to teach these folks calculus. Still at that, someone must make the widegts, so get off your high horse.

Your post is indicative of why economics really needs to be taught earlier. I don't mean offense there I just again get upset when people go..."well you can't teach everyone calculus because they aren't smart enough". This is simply an assumption that because of current conditions things could not get better (or worse). So rather than give a person the chance to demonstrate otherwise we should assume that Calculus is just out of reach for most people? I'll share something humiliating with you...I took what was about Calc2 in high school and got just an ok 28 on the ACT...and I'm the only one of my friends without either a college degree and/or a job paying 50k or more a year. I'm not smart by most of the worlds standards and I'm sure my IQ isn't far from 100..yet I could do calculus. I'm sure that if people actually kept raising the standards in what is taught in classrooms instead of some arbitrary tests they'd see some change. Want to teach something applicable to every day life...get a kid an Adrino or similar kit and have him program with it. Better yet let him tinker around in an OS that promotes such though like Linux or on hardware designed like the Pi.

Music in generic doesn't increase intelligence...at least not the mainstream kind filled with simplistic words and recycled rhythm and notes. Classical music was the only kind ever linked to having a slightly above statistically insignificant result. However, composing/creating it might have a more intellectually stimulating effect.

As for PE...the problem is not simply that kids don't exercise...they regardless consume more than they need. I hardly exercise now and I'm still as skinny as ever. Why? I don't eat as much as I did when I ran 5k a day.

PS: I'm not on a high horse...but in a world where everyone programs...there's likely a machine that makes the widget why everyone else makes different machines or things with code. Society is better off and everyone has increased their human capital.
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I find his sentiments my own, especially about what is needed in school, I don't think he is on a high horse, I think he is expressing the truth, and for the most part he is correct... (Linux? JUST SAY NO!)

I do not believe the problem is about "what" people are capable of learning or that their intelligence matters, in fact, Albert Einstein couldn't even talk till he was like what 4 years old? The problem is they do not teach well enough in school and the kids are not truly motivated enough to learn, well those in America that is...

You cannot gauge a person's intelligence by their IQ, the test are faulty! Moreover, who's to say a person with a low IQ couldn't improve it?

Nevertheless, all of this talk is for naught, and indeed MS & Facebook have a very real reason why they want this to happen...

It's called, INTELLECTUAL & INFORMATION THEFT....

anyway, I just had to share this


Linux...is an OS designed by programmers for programmers (or stupid people like me who just get lucky to make it work).

And it's not only that MS or Facebook will "steal" from your ideas...they do need people to fill in whenever someone retires or dies.

PS: HTML isn't "programming" as my friends who do code tell me. They remind me it's "just a mark up language". Then laugh at me when they see what I write for scripts in bash. frown.gif
     
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my HS had basic coding. I even had the motivation to get into...I just could never make heads or tails of it headscratch.gif, like most of my second language courses biggrin.gif
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Abstract creative thinking and problem solving skills is some of the most important aspects one learns from coding. I agree, coding should be mandatory in schools today; worldwide. Philosophy also teaches many cognitive, communicative, and rationality skills needed in today's world. Philosophy should also be mandatory.
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The one thing that really makes me happy is that regardless of whether schools add coding to their curriculum or not; kids today, have the option of learning all that stuff on their own. This internet of ours isn't there just so we can watch cute cats dance on youtube... Those with an interest will find code.org the same way that hundreds of thousands of kids and parents who want their kids to do better at school have found Khan Academy... This is one more of them "Field of dreams" type things... Build it and they will come. So forget the schools; we know the system in place is archaic and out of step with today's tech.
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my 2cents. the moment crisis hit in 2008, all software development was stopped and all developers stood still and started to get layed off. operational support was only thing that stayed, since it was already outsourced in past and it was needed on daily basis. customers suddenly realized that they dont need new functionalities and that they can live with existing solutions.

also guys like gates are nothing to worship for. a grandson of banker whose mommy got him a sweatheart contract from her friend ceo of ibm. only guy i respect is steve jobs a true engineer and i hate apple actually smile.gif but yeah jobs was a true engineer. he got kicked out of apple and bought pixar and made something out of it.

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