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Originally Posted by BizzareRide View Post

Games are not starting to "need" six cores...

They soon might, considering that next gen consoles are 8 core, and developers might start threading games for all cores, having 4 cores might be a bottleneck down the line in the future. I think Crysis 3 already shows how it can take advantage of the 8 core AMD cpus, giving a nice performance boost over some intel 4 cores.
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yeah yeah, another overkill, overpriced 6-channel and 2 millions features that nobody need blah blah nonsense.

We want a 6-core on a main-stream platform already b/c games are starting to need it and main-stream platform should be enough for that. Milk our money this way. But than again, it will be AMD's chance to close the gap.

Might and starting to need are two different things. There is no game out now that can largely benefit, let alone NEED six cores. That makes the above statement........strange.

Speak for yourself.


On topic.

Sounds interesting, but it does muddy the waters a bit for the ole X58 crowd. I mean, fighting that urge to build a new machine these past few generations has been difficult to say the least.
Edited by LancerVI - 2/28/13 at 9:18am
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They soon might, considering that next gen consoles are 8 core, and developers might start threading games for all cores, having 4 cores might be a bottleneck down the line in the future. I think Crysis 3 already shows how it can take advantage of the 8 core AMD cpus, giving a nice performance boost over some intel 4 cores.
It was proven to be poorly coded and benchmarked.
And some Intel CPUs have 8 threads since first gen Core i7 (Bloomfield)...
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It was proven to be poorly coded and benchmarked.
And some Intel CPUs have 8 threads since first gen Core i7 (Bloomfield)...

Poorly coded or not, the Crysis 3 benchmarks have shown that FX-8350's 8 AMD cores beats 3770K's 8 Intel threads and 3930K's 6 core/12threads give the best performance. So either it is not coded well for Hyperthreading or that Hyper-threading no longer allow Intel quad core HTs to surpass AMD Octas.

So if future games gets coded like this because AMD's Gaming Bundle programs & AMD Octa core consoles, Intel will need to increase core count to surpass keep/take the Gaming performance edge in CPU.
Edited by sherlock - 2/28/13 at 9:27am
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I agree that with next gen consoles focusing on multi core CPUs will affect the way developers make games. Specially since its very similar to PCs, so it will be easy for them to code games to use more cores. That is why I am exited for ps4 and next Xbox because I believe it will benefit the PC gaming in a positive way. Can't wait for CPUs with more cores than 4 or even 6.
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indeed, but what scares me is if developers don't take time and not use hyper threading at all, and just code for 8 logical cores on the consoles, but same game on PC will just run on 4, without using the power of hyper threading. Might push some over to AMD at that point, if Intel wont have cheaper 6-8 core parts.
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SLI/CFX obviously. Doesn't hurt for "future proofing" or PCI-E SSDs either.

SLI doesn't bottleneck PCIe 2.1 or 3.0. Don't forget, most if not all of the GPU->GPU traffic is sent over the SLI/CFX bridge, not the PCIe fabric. The industry is pushing faster PCIe implementations for PCIe SSDs, storage clusters, virtualisation clusters, big core routers etc.
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Actually nope. Haswell-E is coming to market on DDR3, most likely with 1866+ native support IMC. Haswell-EP ( SERVER PLATFORM ) may have DDR4 SKU's.

I really do hope that IVY-E does get cancelled and superseded with haswell-e, that would be best case scenario. Otherwise what's the point of X99 for Ivybridge-E and intel working on another PCH for Haswell-E/Haswell-EP?

That won't happen. Ivy-E might not be a useful upgrade for SB-E owners, or even i7 9xx owners, but there are still plenty of Core 2 Duo, i3 and i5 owners out there looking to build a machine that will last the next two or three generations.

I'm one of them. smile.gif
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Poorly coded or not, the Crysis 3 benchmarks have shown that FX-8350's 8 AMD cores beats 3770K's 8 Intel threads and 3930K's 6 core/12threads give the best performance. So either it is not coded well for Hyperthreading or that Hyper-threading no longer allow Intel quad core HTs to surpass AMD Octas.

Crysis CPU benchmarks are weird, as far as HT goes you can see from Maldo's blog that at 1080p he had a 25~30% increase in FPS turning HT on in his 2600k.
http://maldotex.blogspot.com.br/2013/02/hyperthreading-and-real-custom-graphics.html
Meanwhile GameGPU.ru's numbers had 2 HT modules left at 0% usage, and my own tests in my 3930k showed an avg of 18% total CPU usage with all 12T having activity.
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I just hope whatever replaces the i7-3820 will be a 6-core part under 400$. I just need to upgrade my X58 rig, maybe not need, but its been so long I just have to touch some new hardware.... smile.gif
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I just hope whatever replaces the i7-3820 will be a 6-core part under 400$. I just need to upgrade my X58 rig, maybe not need, but its been so long I just have to touch some new hardware.... smile.gif

I'd bet money that ivy-e will have 2 hexacore CPUS at 500~600 price range and a 1000USD octacore.
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