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I'd bet money that ivy-e will have 2 hexacore CPUS at 500~600 price range and a 1000USD octacore.

Gulftown(32nm die shrink) had $900ish hexcore(i7-970) and $1000 hexcore(i7-980X/990X) so I wouldn't bet money so early on Ivy-E(22nm die shrink) not doing the same.

It all depends on the sale data of

980 vs 980X & 3930K vs 3960X, if 980X sold much better than 3960X then Intel might keep the $550 price point model down at Hexcore.
Edited by sherlock - 2/28/13 at 9:55am
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Gulftown(32nm die shrink) had $550ish Hexcore(i7-980) and $1000 hexcore(i7-980X/990X) so I wouldn't bet money so early on Ivy-E(22nm die shrink) not doing the same.

And so did SB-E with the 3930k at 600USD and 3960x/70x at 1000 USD. My point is there are rumors of possible 8 core SB-E (3980X) floating around, while SB-E's die would allow 8 cores I'm unsure that will happen anytime soon. I do believe, however, that this will happen in IB-E, and since intel usually price their best CPUs at 1000 USD, that's where my hunch comes from.


What I would like to see would be:
Partially locked 6 cores (an increase from 3820) at the 450 USD range.
Fully unlocked 6 cores (3930k sucessor) at the 600 USD range.
Fully unlocked, extra cache 8 cores (3970X sucessor) at the 1000 USD range.
Edited by DMHernandez - 2/28/13 at 9:49am
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post #33 of 133
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And so did SB-E with the 3930k at 600USD and 3960x/70x at 1000 USD. My point is there are rumors of possible 8 core SB-E (3980X) floating around, while SB-E's die would allow 8 cores I'm unsure that will happen anytime soon. I do believe, however, that this will happen in IB-E, and since intel usually price their best CPUs at 1000 USD, that's where my hunch comes from.

I compared Gulftown with Ivy-E as they are both die shrinks that did/could add cores for desktop products ( Sandy-E did not), just in case you missed my point.

There are rumors that Ivy-E/EP have more than 8 native cores(as those LGA 1567 10 core Westmere-EPs need replacement), so it would be easier for Ivy-E to add cores.
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I compared Gulftown with Ivy-E as they are both die shrinks( Sandy-E is not), just in case you missed that point.

There are rumors that Ivy-E/EP have more than 8 native cores(as those LGA 1567 10 core Westmere-EPs need replacement), so it would be easier for Ivy-E to add cores.

Your point was that they could have a cheaper 6 core (3820 equivalent) and the rest would be 8 cores? If so, I really hope you are right, but I'm not sure that would happen right away, they might want to release the 8 core 1000USD cpu first and after a while they could add a cheaper version in the 600 USD range... not sure.

Didn't they do something similar with the gulftown release? Or was that always the 550 USD version of the hexacore?
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Your point was that they could have a cheaper 6 core (3820 equivalent) and the rest would be 8 cores? If so, I really hope you are right, but I'm not sure that would happen right away, they might want to release the 8 core 1000USD cpu first and after a while they could add a cheaper version in the 600 USD range... not sure.

Didn't they do something similar with the gulftown release? Or was that always the 550 USD version of the hexacore?

My point is that they could keep Ivy-E all Octa core and all $900+ for a while like they did with Gulftown. Maybe with a 3820 successor Hexcore at the $450 range that OCs like 3820.

All Gulftown are Hexcore and the cheapest for a while was the $895 i7-970 until the i7-980 came out Q2 of 2011.
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But doesn't Intel most of the time release a CPU , such as the 920 for x58, i7-3820 for x79 the budget High end chips, and they always land between 280-350$. I think it would be logical for them to replace those chips with a price equivalent , at this case at least a slower 6-core. A new quad to replace the i7-3820 would be very disappointing in my book.
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All Gulftown are Hexcore and the cheapest for a while was the $895 i7-970 until the i7-980 came out Q2 of 2011.

I'm sorry, got confused with the code names, I meant when the i7 9xx came out, the only hexacore was the higher priced ones, but yeah.
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I'm sorry, got confused with the code names, I meant when the i7 9xx came out, the only hexacore was the higher priced ones, but yeah.

There are Bloomfield quads in i7 9XX family, but all i7 Gulftowns(970/980/980X/990X) are Hexas.
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But doesn't Intel most of the time release a CPU , such as the 920 for x58, i7-3820 for x79 the budget High end chips, and they always land between 280-350$. I think it would be logical for them to replace those chips with a price equivalent , at this case at least a slower 6-core. A new quad to replace the i7-3820 would be very disappointing in my book.

While that is true, don't forget 920 is a Bloomfield not Gulftown. I hope for a 6 core 3820 successor below $450 with locked multis just like 3820. Not sure if we will get anything like the 3930K successor for Ivy-E given how badly it might have hurt 3960X sales this gen.
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But doesn't Intel most of the time release a CPU , such as the 920 for x58, i7-3820 for x79 the budget High end chips, and they always land between 280-350$. I think it would be logical for them to replace those chips with a price equivalent , at this case at least a slower 6-core. A new quad to replace the i7-3820 would be very disappointing in my book.

I agree, especially since most people I know that bought the 3820 did so with upgrading their rig to IB-E in mind, and since socket 2011 will be dead after this, it would be pointless to launch a cpu that will probably rival the 3770k after haswell is released, maybe if they use solder instead of TIM and the OC headroom is greatly improved from the 3770k... even then, I dunno.
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I agree, especially since most people I know that bought the 3820 did so with upgrading their rig to IB-E in mind, and since socket 2011 will be dead after this, it would be pointless to launch a cpu that will probably rival the 3770k after haswell is released, maybe if they use solder instead of TIM and the OC headroom is greatly improved from the 3770k... even then, I dunno.

Me thinking:

i7-4830, 6 core, locked multi, OC by BCLK strap, $400ish
i7-4940K, 4830 with unlocked multi, $560 ish
i7-4970X, 8 core with unlocked multi, $999.
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