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Originally Posted by Booty Warrior View Post

Who said anything about MSRP? 3970X retails over 1k almost everywhere except Microcenter. But if you want to believe you'll get an Ivy-E 8 core for under 1k at launch go right ahead, a man can dream

The point is the first 6 core Intel 980X was no more expensive on release than the quad core 975 that proceeded it when it was released.

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6 core Ivy-E chips will probably start around the same price as the 3930K and the first consumer 8 core would definitely be over 1K. This is Intel we're talking about here.

The same Intel you are talking about didn't price any 980X higher than what 965/975 retailed($999 per tray and +60 for retail Boxes) for just because it is the first Hexcore.

If you believe Ivy-E 8 core will be more expensive than the highest priced current SB-E 6 core(3970X) just because it is the first Intel 8 core then you have no precedent to go on.
Edited by sherlock - 2/28/13 at 6:12pm
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Who said anything about MSRP? 3970X retails over 1k almost everywhere except Microcenter. But if you want to believe you'll get an Ivy-E 8 core for under 1k at launch go right ahead, a man can dream wink.gif

We got a 4-Core, 6-Core after extreme edition for ~ $500-600. Q6600 and Core i7 970. This is why Intel will not release a 8-Core CPU because it would have to release a 8-Core non extreme CPU soon after for half price and then what about the 6-Core? The price is going to tank all Intels lineup. They can still play ball with us.
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I'm pretty sure even a GTX 690 has trouble saturating PCI-E 2.1 x8 let alone x16 (assuming 2 GPUs...if you run 3 or 4 cards it's a safe assumption you've moved on to pcie 3)

You don't need futureproofing when PCI-E 3.0 just became mainstream this past year and it'll take years and years before we'll saturate that.
Just curious, since i dont work in the industry or in the pro scene...how common is pcie ssd/storage etc that does saturate pcie3 or is close to it?

Well PCIe 2.x is 500MB/s per lane, so a 16 lane slot will do 8GB/s. The fastest PCIe SSD I know will do 1GB/s, BUT don't forget things like 40Gb/s and 100Gb/s Ethernet products which are already in the market, if not ratified yet. Put 4 100Gb/s NICs in a router chassis and your looking at 12.5GB/s per card - that's 50GB/s across 4 cards. Sounds like a lot, but for a core Internet router I'd imagine it's par for the course.

Something like this is what I'm talking about.
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With 3.84 Tbps of line rate throughput in a half rack chassis, the T4000 offers double the slot capacity of the nearest competitor.

3.84Tb/s = 491.52GBytes/s = very fast. tongue.gif
Edited by parityboy - 2/28/13 at 6:24pm
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post #74 of 133
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If you believe Ivy-E 8 core will be more expensive than the highest priced current SB-E 6 core(3970X) just because it is the first Intel 8 core then you have no precedent to go on.
I never said it would be "higher than the 3970X" though... I have little doubt it will be retailing over 1k though, much like the 3970X is today. Of course I'd love to be wrong on this point.
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I never said it would be "higher than the 3970X" though... I have little doubt it will be retailing over 1k though, much like the 3970X is today. Of course I'd love to be wrong on this point.

I thought You implied Intel would jack the price beyond what 3970X is selling for now when you said "First consumer 8 core CPU" & " this is Intel we are talking about here". Otherwise I totally agree with what you said.
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whaaaaat are you talking about we can't even saturate pcie 2.0 let alone 3.0, when i say saturate i mean SATURATE something you can REALLY call a bottle neck. you will have to worry about your ram and cpu long before pcie 3.0 let alone 4.0.

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Well PCIe 2.x is 500MB/s per lane, so a 16 lane slot will do 8GB/s. The fastest PCIe SSD I know will do 1GB/s, BUT don't forget things like 40Gb/s and 100Gb/s Ethernet products which are already in the market, if not ratified yet. Put 4 100Gb/s NICs in a router chassis and your looking at 12.5GB/s per card - that's 50GB/s across 4 cards. Sounds like a lot, but for a core Internet router I'd imagine it's par for the course.

Something like this is what I'm talking about.
3.84Tb/s = 491.52GBytes/s = very fast. tongue.gif

You're talking about server parts at that point, and server parts will be using 2 or 4 processor systems, each with their own dedicated set of PCI-E lanes. In the case of SB-E, that's 40 PCI-E 3.0 lanes per processor.
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@Tsumi

My point is that PCI Express 3.x and 4x are not being developed so that a few people can go play BF3 using 3x SLI at insane resolutions while getting 120fps. They're being developed to provide enough headroom for products like that router.
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I just hope whatever replaces the i7-3820 will be a 6-core part under 400$. I just need to upgrade my X58 rig, maybe not need, but its been so long I just have to touch some new hardware.... smile.gif

You can get a 6 core X58 chip for $~250. Look at L5560 and x5660 chips and their ilk.
    
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Not sure why everyone assumes that if inter were to roll out a 8 core ivy e, they would charge more than 1K. Look how the move from nehalem based extreme to westmere turned out? You got 2 more cores and intel still charged 1K. Its very possible they will make a locked 6 core, unlocked 6 core at $600 with much more cache and then extreme 1K CPU with 8 cores. The move from 32nm to 22nm makes this very possible.
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