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Honestly I think it's going to go

Partially unlocked Hex- ~300
Fully Unlocked Oct- ~600
Fully Unlocked Oct with Extra Cache- ~1000

Here is my reasoning,

BloomfieldGulftown chips were all in the 1k range and the first consumer Hex-Cores

Next Generation, Intel releases a hex core at half that price with a Higher tiered hex above it assuming they follow the trend the next hex core chip will be half the price of the current mid range one.

Bloomfield had the i7 920 which was pretty cheap, Gulftown never dropped below $900 until mid 2011 with i7 970 dropping price along with new release i7 980 around $600 . i7 3930K is the first fully unlocked $600 product to quickly follow the $1000 Flagship X chip (3960X).

The argument against a fully unlocked $600 chip like 3930K is that I suspect 3930K really killed 3960X sales, as there was no point in 3960X other than better clock before OC. Intel therefore might release a Partially Locked(i7-3820 like) Octa as 3930K's successor to boost the $1000 unlocked Octa sales.
Edited by sherlock - 3/3/13 at 2:46pm
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It's really being called x99?
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Bloomfield had the i7 920 which was pretty cheap, Gulftown never dropped below $900 until mid 2011 with i7 970 dropping price along with new release i7 980 around $600 . i7 3930K is the first fully unlocked $600 product to quickly follow the $1000 Flagship X chip (3960X).

The argument against a fully unlocked $600 chip like 3930K is that I suspect 3930K really killed 3960X sales, as there was no point in 3960X other than better clock before OC. Intel therefore might release a Partially Locked(i7-3820 like) Octa as 3930K's successor to boost the $1000 unlocked Octa sales.
The consumer 2011 sales are so tiny in intels revenue, its to the point where they don't care.
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Not sure how many people here know but the x79 rampage IV extreme has been discontinued. Someone over in the RIVE club contacted ASUS about this and they replied:

"The Rampage extreme board has been discontinued. It is not due to the quality of the board itself, but the fact that Intel's newer processors won't support the socket of the board. We are discontinuing the board to focus on newer socket technology."

If this statement is true then to me this would suggest X99 is the new socket they are working on. I would also take from this that IVY-E is the new processor and X79 will not support IVY-E.

I am also pretty sure Intel have confirmed there will be no main stream octo core IVY-E processor. I will update shortly with a source of this info.
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Not sure how many people here know but the x79 rampage IV extreme has been discontinued. Someone over in the RIVE club contacted ASUS about this and they replied:

"The Rampage extreme board has been discontinued. It is not due to the quality of the board itself, but the fact that Intel's newer processors won't support the socket of the board. We are discontinuing the board to focus on newer socket technology."

If this statement is true then to me this would suggest X99 is the new socket they are working on. I would also take from this that IVY-E is the new processor and X79 will not support IVY-E.

I am also pretty sure Intel have confirmed there will be no main stream octo core IVY-E processor. I will update shortly with a source of this info.
What i don't understand is why Intel choosing to focus on Ivy E instead just putting all resources into bringing Haswell E.
We all know that the mainstream ivy platform is nothing more but a test for Intel to see how the new process technology works because ivy is nothing more than sandy with very incremental changes. So it would make sense they would only focus on releasing big architecture changes for the enthusiast segment while using the mainstream platform for testing new process. This seems like most viable strategy as they would not waste so much RD money into a test architecture of sort for the new manufacturing process.

Then again, I'm no Intel engineer/platform develper so i don't know all the kink and things that go into account.
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hmm if true some x79 owners thinking of upgrading to IVY-E will be pissed, if that's why intel will release x99 so soon, and around time of Ivy-e.
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Not sure how many people here know but the x79 rampage IV extreme has been discontinued. Someone over in the RIVE club contacted ASUS about this and they replied:

I am also pretty sure Intel have confirmed there will be no main stream octo core IVY-E processor. I will update shortly with a source of this info.

Top-Intel-Ivy-Bridge-E-Core-Processors-To-Still-Pack-Six-Cores should be the source you are looking for. Definitely do not constitute: "Intel Confirming Ivy-E is Hex core"(If this actually happened you can be sure every single tech site will be all over it).

That one source came from a Chinese site and is no more believable than this[Sweclockers] Ivy Bridge EP with up to 15 cores

I find the second source more believe because

The Ivy-EP native 15 core unit(with 1/3 core disabled) would make a fitting successor to the 10 core Xeon E7/Westmere-EP/ LGA1567 unit that's 3 years old on probably a larger socket than LGA 2011(just like how LGA1567 is larger than LGA 1366).

The Ivy-EP native 10 core unit (with 0/2 core disabled) succeed Xeon E5 Sandy-E parts, and the leaky parts become I7 Octas.

The Ivy-EP native 6 core unit succeed the current quad core Xeons, (with 0/2 core disabled) succeed i7 3820.
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post #98 of 133
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Bloomfield had the i7 920 which was pretty cheap, Gulftown never dropped below $900 until mid 2011 with i7 970 dropping price along with new release i7 980 around $600 . i7 3930K is the first fully unlocked $600 product to quickly follow the $1000 Flagship X chip (3960X).

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this was more of a half formed thought when I said it
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hmm if true some x79 owners thinking of upgrading to IVY-E will be pissed, if that's why intel will release x99 so soon, and around time of Ivy-e.

I will be EXTREMELY pissed if Intel pulls that kind of crap
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http://www.techpowerup.com/174811/Top-Intel-Ivy-Bridge-E-Core-Processors-To-Still-Pack-Six-Cores.html should be the source you are looking for.

However that one came from a Chinese site and is no more believe this[Sweclockers] Ivy Bridge EP with up to 15 cores


Maybe we're all wrong and it will be

Hex $300
Octo $600
Deca $1k
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I'm not sure what to believe at the moment. Up until this point I, like many others, believed that socket 2011 will support IVY-E with a BIOS update because that seemed to be the word from Intel. What puts doubt in my in my mind now is that I don't believe for one second that ASUS will not have a top end board available for IVY-E! Something here doesn't add up?
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