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post #11 of 52
you don't need that kind of bass. $750 tells me he is serious about his music and maybe just needs a little convincing. if he can save up $1200, $1300 he should go for it. I would of saved money if I bought the Audeze LCD-2 to begin with.
    
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$750 for ~everything~ tells me he has $750 dollars to get ~everything~ and would prefer to spend less if possible because he's unsure he even wants to drop all this on audio.

I also think your Shure's are more neutral than the HD650s meaning the HD650s are darker than the Shure's for sure.

I don't think someone should jump from AD700s to LCD-2s. That and the LCD2's aren't neutral. The highs aren't there and he has no money for a DAC or AMP and if we're pushing to 1200 then why not another 500 for the LCD3's and then another 700 for DAC and amp.
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post #13 of 52
Audio Technica M50 Anniversary Edition $160 MSRP
Sennheiser HD558 $250 MSRP
SR-325i $329 MSRP
Denon AH-D5000 $700 MSRP

if I sold all those headphones I would be lucky to get $650 back lol

whether you keep the headphones or sell them, you lose money when you upgrade. buy a used pair of Audeze LCD-2 and a $500 integrated DAC and Headphone Amplifier like the ALO Pan Am and be done with it.
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post #14 of 52
$100 for M50s. $115 for 558s. $200 for 325is maybe, D5000s will probably fetch you 325. That's about $740.

Then shipping you lose some >_> 12 each...so..yeah around 650 you keep after paypal.
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I am going to agree with simca about the budget. Personally, I think what the OP sound focus on is getting a better amp (the schiit magni is still a great DAC no matter how you look at it) and get cheaper headphones now, and then later down the road the OP can move up to the LCD2 or even 3.

No matter how you slice it, the LCD2 is going to sound like garbage without the proper amp and dac.

My end point is that the LCD2 is the right choice, but it is certainly not the smart choice.

I would think that the Schiit Valhalla and the modi for the gear and the AKG Q701 for the headphone would be a great choice. The Q701s don't have the head shaking bass, but they do have more than the AD700s and the OP stated that he was not a bass head, so I think he will be happy with the bass. The highs are why I like these headphones for rock, and the mids are fairly neutral. I also think they are cheap enough that when the OP does upgrade, he won't be loosing too much of his investment.
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you guys are crazy tongue.gif

ALO Pan Am is a proper amplifier. it has great synergy with Audeze headphones and it's on sale for $499. the one you want from Schiit is the Lyr but it cost $449.

the Schiit Valhalla and Audeze LCD-2 are not a good combination. if he buys the AKG Q701 and Schiit Valhalla he will have to sell both if he wants to upgrade to a orthodynamic headphone.

Edit: Valhalla
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you guys are crazy tongue.gif

ALO Pan Am is a proper amplifier. it has great synergy with Audeze headphones and it's on sale for $499. the one you want from Schiit is the Lyr but it cost $449.

the Schiit Valhalla and Audeze LCD-2 are not a good combination. if he buys the AKG Q701 and Schiit Valhalla he will have to sell both if he wants to upgrade to a orthodynamic headphone.

Edit: Valhalla

why do you say that? I tested the LCD2 on the valhalla and the lyr. Both worked fine. Obviously they sounded different, but I actually liked the valhalla more. Of course the lyr had rolled tubes, so I did not hear it in its 'pure form'. Of course for all I know the valhalla might have been rolled as well. You just never know what you are going to get when you got to a head-fi meet tongue.gif
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the Valhalla cannot drive orthodynamics.
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Can Valhalla drive my orthodynamic headphones?
Being polite: not a chance. Although Valhalla can deliver large voltages into high-impedance headphones, it cannot supply the current needed for low-efficiency, low-impedance orthodynamic headphones. If you have Audeze or HiFiMan headphones, look at Lyr. LCD-2s, HE-400s, and HE-500s are also efficient enough to be used with Asgard, if you’d like an all-solid-state option.

http://schiit.com/schiit-faq/valhalla-questions/
    
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the Valhalla cannot drive orthodynamics.
http://schiit.com/schiit-faq/valhalla-questions/

.......Then how did they work on the valhalla? (and by work, I mean - work well).

Obviously I will take your word on the lyr, but now I am really curious, because I did indeed listen to the LCD2 on the valhalla without any issues.eh-smiley.gif
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Looking at Schiit's specs, the Valhalla's most efficient power transfer occurs at 300Ω. There it makes half a watt. Figuring I'd hit its sweat spot with my 400Ω-rated Sennheiser HD800, I advanced to 2:00 on the dial to match the Raffinatos. Slam and grippiness increased. What also snuck in was a completely unexpected drier demeanour and a faint sense of associated brittleness. beyerdynamic's 600Ω T1 wanted 3:00 on the control to match levels. Now warmth increased but I felt sibilants on brighter Pop fare were slightly overcooked (that's mostly how they're recorded - again no leading lady soft focus). AKG's K-702 pushed the dial to 4:00, the planar magnetic Audez'e LCD-2 pretty much maxed out available power and started to fray around the edges. As I turned up the thumb screws—by using headphones that turned out to be less than ideal loads—things got glassier and more tiresome.
    
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