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They just don't want to pay the money to support the infrastructure so they can give themselves bigger bonuses. Capitalism, we thought it was great...
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post #122 of 326
they are correct.. 1 gigabit would be overkill for now. But it never hurts to have more headroom for the future
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This is a stupid statement because as the times passes, more and more people are connected to the Internet. They are using the Internet in variety of ways that require Internet bandwidth. For example, more and more people are connecting and watching Netflix everyday. More services like this will come up and require a significant Internet speeds. In the coming years families will log into the Internet to do many things at the same time. Competition will change this big time in the coming years I hope. He will change his mind.
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Blah! but google IS DOING IT! its not like it can't be done, They just don't want to do it!

How is it that hard to understand! There is a company out there, Offering a rediculas internet speeds, Cable, DVR, Cloud and NAS, Tablet, phone(might as well send you a partridge and a pare tree too!) for a stupid low price! Your just not taking that into consideration!

Its not like this is some impossible feat that cannot be done. It can be done, it is being done and it sucks to be TWC right now lol.

martin luther king jr of internet right here
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Put it like this, I may not need this speed and want it. Google, as the most current example, sells it. My neighbor is on TWC for example or Cox, Comcast et all.

I pay 70$ for 1000 Mb/s connection. He pays ~90$ for a modem rental, and a 50 up and 5 down (Mb/s) connection.

Why in God's name would any consumer choose to pay more for less. They won't.

But he will because he's comfortable and happy with his TV, primarily. And I'm sure that 50 down is allowing him to get to his email and Facebook quite speedily.
The reality is that the people who can make use of gigabit internet (let alone fathom what it is capable of) is quite small. To Google it's a tornado of selling standpoints over function which is engulfing TWC. This is all fine and dandy as competition is good for the consumer but from a technical standpoint TWC is right, unfortunately.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for more but atm we are able to push 1080p content through 6-8mbit/s connections. 50mbit down cons are probably able to pull 4 or 5 stable 1080p streams at once.
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But he will because he's comfortable and happy with his TV, primarily. And I'm sure that 50 down is allowing him to get to his email and Facebook quite speedily.
The reality is that the people who can make use of gigabit internet (let alone fathom what it is capable of) is quite small. To Google it's a tornado of selling standpoints over function which is engulfing TWC. This is all fine and dandy as competition is good for the consumer but from a technical standpoint TWC is right, unfortunately.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for more but atm we are able to push 1080p content through 6-8mbit/s connections. 50mbit down cons are probably able to pull 4 or 5 stable 1080p streams at once.

And didn't Bill Gates once say 640KB of RAM is more than anyone would need?

It's better to have a lot of overhead in case one day you might need it. I would be perfectly fine with 1 Mbps internet at the moment, but as soon as I need to download something or steam a 1080p + video on youtube, I will need all the bandwidth I have and still more.
    
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No consumer? I begged them just last week to offer faster internet. 5mbps upload is crap!
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post #128 of 326
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Blah! but google IS DOING IT! its not like it can't be done, They just don't want to do it!

Google is doing it with 4% of ONE city.

Wake me up when they ACTUALLY have working even 1/100th the actual number of customers of TWC.

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Don't get me wrong, I'm all for more but atm we are able to push 1080p content through 6-8mbit/s connections. 50mbit down cons are probably able to pull 4 or 5 stable 1080p streams at once.

This. 1000/1000 is complete overkill for now and even the next 20 years (which is about how long the fiber lasts before it has to be replaced anyway).

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And didn't Bill Gates once say 640KB of RAM is more than anyone would need?

It's better to have a lot of overhead in case one day you might need it. I would be perfectly fine with 1 Mbps internet at the moment, but as soon as I need to download something or steam a 1080p + video on youtube, I will need all the bandwidth I have and still more.

Yes, but sometimes, overkill for the sake of overkill is a waste. I remember back in the days when the 64-bit processors came out and AMD was pushing their chips as "Future Proof". People were saying that you should run out and get the 64-bit AMD because it would one day be how all the CPUs would run. And you know what, they were right. Only problem is, by the time that 64-bit CPUs were REALLY mainstream, people had not only traded in that "future proof" AMD chip, but they had traded in the next 3 chips AFTER that too.
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post #129 of 326
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So true!

and really I'm fine the download speeds. Its the upload speeds that really get me going. I have no idea where ISP's pulled the numbers when they came up with the up and download caps.

I mean come on, a 50/10 connection, what is that good for? Any user's I know that NEED that much download need a lot more than 10 upload.

If TWC really wanted to bag some new customer's they should change their upload speeds to be around 50% of the download.

10/5, 30/15 and 50/25 (download/upload speeds) for similar pricing to what they offer now would be amazing!

GFiber is just showing that it is possible to offer amazing speeds at one hell of a price.

If it wasn't for the fact that the morons who run the homeowner's association in my community signed a 5 year subsidy with TWC, I would have told them to go screw themselves and switched to FIOS.

TWC wanted to charge me $90 a month for a 40/10 connection, I told them they were insane and hung up the phone.
lol i get 80/40 fios for that price!
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Blah! but google IS DOING IT! its not like it can't be done, They just don't want to do it!

How is it that hard to understand! There is a company out there, Offering a rediculas internet speeds, Cable, DVR, Cloud and NAS, Tablet, phone(might as well send you a partridge and a pare tree too!) for a stupid low price! Your just not taking that into consideration!

Its not like this is some impossible feat that cannot be done. It can be done, it is being done and it sucks to be TWC right now lol.

LOL. If you don't understand why Google is doing this I feel sorry for you. This is a great little marketing effort on their part. And in the end when you switch over you will effectively hand over the last bit of privacy you have to Google. You will have consolidated into their entire information gathering ecosystem. If that's what you want that is fine. But Google is not in this to be your friend. I may like the company...but I understand plenty that they even have more reasons behind doing what they are doing there that would take more time to explain than I feel inclined to.

PS: I'm sure that Google has plenty of spare money to afford this compared to TWC. Also, a localized monopoly like the telecoms/ISPs is difficult to fix. PostalTwinkie IIRC could give more details if you ask him though about how to compete.
     
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