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Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie View Post

I will tell you right now why there should be huge demand for Gb+ speeds from the "average" consumer.....

There is a point in data transfer that it becomes so fast, that network congestion no longer exists. This, on a consumer level, starts to happen at about 1Gbps.

Think of the checkout line at the grocery store. Every item has to be scanned and processed bit by bit, the longer it takes for that to happen, the more the line gets backed up. Now imagine if at that same grocery store they could process and scan all those items at one time, and in nearly an instant. You simply wouldn't have backed up lines, because everything is processed out of the system before that happens.

Believe it or not, as an ISP, the higher a customers speed the more profit there is, and the less network congestion they cause, so long as the overall capacity on the network is there. When we have a customer trying to download a large file, say patch WoW, on a 3Mb connection, they are going to be tying up that portion of the network for awhile. Now compare that to someone with a faster connection, they don't tie it up nearly as long. Basically they are in and out.

If everyone was on 1Gbps + connections, we wouldn't see "peak usage bottlenecks" anymore.
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Originally Posted by 47 Knucklehead View Post

Blah, blah, blah.

Everyone should be forced to buy a fully automatic machine gun, because that would mean better quality and reduced prices.
Everyone should be forced to buy a new car, because that would mean better quality and reduced prices.
Everyone should be forced to buy a smart phone, because that would mean better quality and reduced prices.
Everyone should be forced to buy a lollipop, because that would mean better quality and reduced prices.
Etc, etc, etc.

Sorry, I absolutely reject your notion of what YOU think EVERYONE should do with THEIR MONEY.

Did you really just take two random parts of that sentence and combine them to twist his point in a completely different direction? Are you a politician of some sort, or have stake/stock in TWC? He didn't say consumers were forced to buy it, he said the option should be there to allow competition to force the prices down. TWC arbitrarily raises my internet cost every 2 to 3 months, when I originally got the 30/5 connection it was $67 and it has crept up to $86. Meanwhile, three blocks away where there are two options for internet and TV service the same package is 1/3 the price.
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I think my 24Mbps dl is good enough but I need more upload 3.0 for their top tier plan just isn't good enough. Online backups take forever.
Edited by cavallino - 2/28/13 at 4:18pm
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Well Time Warner I would love to have faster internet but I know you would charge me an arm and a leg for it
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post #165 of 326
6 strike program rollout
Throttle those that actually utilize the service
Bribe customers to minimize internet usage (in the form of coupons)
Hit and Run Data Cap plans
???
Headline News: TWC claims there is no demand for 1gbps at this time.

Go figure lol
    
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post #166 of 326
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Did you really just take two random parts of that sentence and combine them to twist his point in a completely different direction?
Are you a politician of some sort?
or have stake/stock in TWC?
He didn't say consumers were forced to buy it, he said the option should be there to allow competition to force the prices down.
TWC arbitrarily raises my internet cost every 2 to 3 months, when I originally got the 30/5 connection it was $67 and it has crept up to $86.
Meanwhile, three blocks away where there are two options for internet and TV service the same package is 1/3 the price.

1) Yes.
2) No I am not.
3) No I do not.
4) No he did not. He implied that everyone should demand this even if they don't get it (which is a dangerous combination given the whole discussion of using tax payer money to pay for it).
5) No they do not. TWC, like all other cable companies, have to go before a regulatory board before they can raise rates. They have to justify their increase in prices based on increases in operating costs. http://www.timewarnercable.com/en/about-us/legal/regulatory-notices/state-tariffs.html
6) And in locations where I am at, as I said before, it's amazing just how similar prices between competing cable companies are and that in areas just 20 miles away, the rates are also basically the same as here. Again, unless you want to tell me where you live, I can't give you an exact reason. Maybe it is just like so many other things, take gasoline for example, right down the road from where I live, it's $3.73 a gallon (I live in nice neighborhood). If I drive just 8 miles away, to a "less nice" area, the price is $3.66 a gallon. Does it cost $0.07 a gallon more for the truck to drive 8,000 gallons of gas into my neighborhood than one just 8 miles away? No. It is what the market will bear in the area.
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of course there's no consumer demand for gigabit internet because most consumers have no idea its even in the realm of possibility for them to acquire it - they take what they can get provided the price isn't ludicrous
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20mbit = $65/month, 50mbit = $120/month, 105mbit = $205/month. Of course nobody is paying for the high tiers - the prices are outrageous. If Google can afford to provide gigabit internet at reasonable prices, the cable companies can too.
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post #169 of 326
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If Google can afford to provide gigabit internet at reasonable prices, the cable companies can too.

Well, maybe if the cable companies were given free and unlimited access to an already installed fiber backbone, free buildings, free electricity, free employees, 1/2 off the normal price for access to telephone poles, etc, etc, etc ... then they could do what Google is PROMISING to do.

Sorry if I sound like a broken record to some, but Google was given a sweet deal by the city. To compare Google in that city to any other cable company anywhere (even in that city) is laughable. It isn't a "fair and level" playing field. If it was, then Google would be given nothing and have to buy and install ALL their own fiber, buy their own buildings, pay for their own electricity, employees, and pay full price for telephone poles.
post #170 of 326
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Originally Posted by Mygaffer View Post

Remember when those horse and buggy salesmen said "No one wants one of those loud automobiles! Most people are perfectly happy to drive our horse and buggy!"

Yup.

don't worry fast internet is just a fad, we'll be happy back on dialup.
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