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I am not confusing anything. 1Gb/s = 128MB/s which is a lot of speed that probably 95% of the people cant fully use because they are limited by the HDD which are only 90-120MB/s fast exuding latest models.

Ah, the way you worded the post made me believe you were, sorry about that.

My response would be....

A household with multiple users.
People with Solid State storage devices.

We should never stop innovating because there isn't a CURRENT use/need for something! That is the entire reason behind innovation, finding the things we will need in the future and how to provide them before then or on time.
    
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I'm glad I no longer have to deal with TWC at all. Charter is way better for me.

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TWC, is like the EA of Internet Providers..

I'll look forward to seeing their destruction, but I know it will never come.
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TWC, is like the EA of Internet Providers..

I'll look forward to seeing their destruction, but I know it will never come.

I can tell you that they are hurting in the kansas market. You should see the local add's they are running.

They are all pretty much a "please come back and give us your money for crap service" add's.
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I am the last person you want to challenge that argument with.

Our total spectrum utilization in this country is a fraction of what is actually available. There is more than enough to go around, by a huge degree! You only start to see some crowding of spectrum, still not total utilization, in major metro areas of about 200,000+ people. Now add onto that statement with the fact that we have equipment that can "yield right of way" to other types of broadcast, and the total room opens up even larger.

If you honestly think the spectrum is full, then the FCC has done their job at lying.

Yeah, and I bet you think that the recent 2GHz BAS Relocation project was easy, cheap, and actually made life easier for the broadcasters who have to use their newly allocated spectrum that was compressed and took over 5 years to convert (and still has issues 2 years AFTER is was pronounced "done".

Buy hey, it sounds like you are someone who is in the industry. Want to talk more shop at the National Association of Broadcasters show in Vegas in a couple weeks? We could have a beer and chew the fat.
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Yeah, and I bet you think that the recent 2GHz BAS Relocation project was easy, cheap, and actually made life easier for the broadcasters who have to use their newly allocated spectrum that was compressed and took over 5 years to convert (and still has issues 2 years AFTER is was pronounced "done".

Buy hey, it sounds like you are someone who is in the industry. Want to talk more shop at the National Association of Broadcasters show in Vegas in a couple weeks? We could have a beer and chew the fat.

I never used the word easy, but if we want to....Yea, it would be very easy to open up the usage of current spectrum for data services.

I own a Wireless ISP, I have to deal with this crap on a nearly daily basis, I have had to go through mountains of data and spectrum analysis information. The spectrum is there and in mass! The problem is the FCC classifies spectrum as "in use" even when it isn't actually being used, just so long as someone holds "ownership" of it. There are entire swaths of spectrum sitting with limited usage in metro areas and have absolutely no usage outside of those areas.

How does that apply to this conversation? Coaxial/Fiber in metro areas, Wireless outside of Metro areas. I have said it many times, and I will say it again.....

DOCSIS protocol can be pushed over the air just as easy as via a protected environment, i.e. Coax.

The spectrum is there to facilitate this, especially in the "rural" areas that have no other option for services.
    
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No cable or ISP on the planet is offering a 10th of what Gfiber is offering

Not strictly true. You can get 300/65 from Verizon, but it's $210/mo and you can't bundle it with TV and phone.
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Not strictly true. You can get 300/65 from Verizon, but it's $210/mo and you can't bundle it with TV and phone.


yea, $130 a month for gigabit, cable, phone, DVR, Tablet, NAS and cloud storage.. Sorry but the quote wasn't refering to data speeds. It was talking about the entire package, and no ISP in america is even close to offering a fraction of what google is for $130


And $210 for only 300/65 and no TV or anything is obscene.
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And $210 for only 300/65 and no TV or anything is obscene.

It was roughly that expensive and had that restriction for 35/35 when FiOS first came out, but the prices dropped precipitously once there was wide adoption here in New England and once 50/25 was added the 35/35 could be had in a bundle. Also, FiOS comes with a decent router (used to be b/g only, but now comes with an n router now that Quantum has hit the market) and really good DVR boxes. So, it's not like Verizon is out to screw their customers, they can't because they're playing in what used to be exclusive playgrounds for the cable companies and those companies are fighting back (Cox in RI and Comcast in Mass now have technology sharing agreements because of FiOS), but they do insist on recouping their costs quickly on the front end.

However, Verizon does have a problem in that they can't go much past 400 Mb/s symmetrical without degrading their TV bandwidth.
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It was roughly that expensive and had that restriction for 35/35 when FiOS first came out, but the prices dropped precipitously once there was wide adoption here in New England and once 50/25 was added the 35/35 could be had in a bundle. Also, FiOS comes with a decent router (used to be b/g only, but now comes with an n router now that Quantum has hit the market) and really good DVR boxes. So, it's not like Verizon is out to screw their customers, they can't because they're playing in what used to be exclusive playgrounds for the cable companies and those companies are fighting back (Cox in RI and Comcast in Mass now have technology sharing agreements because of FiOS), but they do insist on recouping their costs quickly on the front end.

However, Verizon does have a problem in that they can't go much past 400 Mb/s symmetrical without degrading their TV bandwidth.

Your reasoning doesn't change the fact that their offer is horrible in comparison to Google Fiber. So technicly my first post stands.

No ISP is offering even 1/10 of what google is offering.

You can give Version every excuse in the book it still won't change the fact that there offer is surpassed by another.
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