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If there is no demand why is it that EVERYONE is getting it?

IF TWC isn't so scared of what GFiber offer's why are they tring their hardest to compeat with it by locking its customer's into stupid contracts spanning years. In my area there IS demand for it.

Who is "everyone"? "Everyone" in your one tiny city? Well, maybe EVENTUALLY they MIGHT get it ... but they haven't even come close yet. Time Warner is a company that is in more than just one small city in one state.

Google has PROMISED one city they will EVENTUALLY get it, but they haven't delivered SQUAT yet ... and what they have delivered, was done on line that the CITY already owned. Google has done very little as a private company to actually go out and lay their own fiber.

And let me restate that ... It is only in ONE CITY (aside from their experiments on a couple college campuses).

So, please, tell me who is the "EVERYONE is getting it" thing.

And regardless of what you just said, it still doesn't invalidate what I said before ... what people WANT, and what people are willing to reasonably PAY are two different things.

I'm sure if you ask everyone on OCN, people will WANT a [Insert the name of a $250,000 car here] and only have to pay $17,000 for it.

You say you want it and so does everyone else in your area ... are you willing to pay 50 TIMES the price you pay now for it?

Its 70$ a month for Google Fiber. 10 Years ago, broadband of 1.5 Mbps and 5 Mbps were approximately 100$ in most areas due to exclusivity.

Here is the status of Kansas City Google Fiber development:
https://fiber.google.com/cities/kck/#header=check

So they have done something.

Here is the pricing and plans:
https://fiber.google.com/about/

The next port of call I believe is Palo Alta, CA.

I don't know why you are defending the article, nor do I know where you are getting your information but I don't think you are aware that Europe already has stuff like this and its quite cheap, half as cheap than what I pay for 4.5 MB/s down and 400KB/s up.
Edited by RagingCain - 2/28/13 at 6:21am
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I wonder what the twc statement will be after all those ppl switch to gfiber smile.gif
"we realized that people actually do need and want giga speeds... but now we are broke since all our customers switched to gfilber and we can't upgrade...'

Edit for spelling

I know TON's of people using TWC and feel that they are not getting a fair deal. Most of them that will switch to GFiber won't be able to use the full extent of the connection, but if google can offer it for next to nothing your silly for not going for it. No cable or ISP on the planet is offering a 10th of what Gfiber is offering, the best part is Gfiber is priced cheaper than most of them!
I pray that Google expands faster! They are going to expand a good deal in the next two years but they need to start other little hot spots of Gfiber goodness and let them slowly grow into each other.

The local reaction here has been "shut up and take my money now". There was some nonsense caused by some low income folks around here. They felt the $300 construction fee for the free internet as long as you live there wasn't fair.. But those people got their cake and are eating it now. Google ended up waving the fee's.
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The "rest of the world" doesn't do it.

Not 1000/1000 speed and not for $120 ... which is pretty much what the people here on OCN want.

Time Warner Cable says there's no consumer demand for gigabit internet

Like I said, there are people who WANT it, but the reality is, there aren't many people who are WILLING TO PAY FOR IT.

DOesn't prove my point but is a fun oldie none the less

Needs a google translate, only 100 up though

It's a silly argument: the rest of th world isn't doing it. The rest of the world pay less and get more and it's not a small difference.
 
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The "rest of the world" doesn't do it.

Not 1000/1000 speed and not for $120 ... which is pretty much what the people here on OCN want.

Time Warner Cable says there's no consumer demand for gigabit internet

Like I said, there are people who WANT it, but the reality is, there aren't many people who are WILLING TO PAY FOR IT.

Eastern and Northern European countries have 1000/1000 for $35 - $100 USD depending on the country lol
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DOesn't prove my point but is a fun oldie none the less

Needs a google translate, only 100 up though

It's a silly argument: the rest of th world isn't doing it. The rest of the world pay less and get more and it's not a small difference.

The 1000/500 is $155 USD
    
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Its 70$ a month for Google Fiber.

... plus untold million in tax payer dollars that were already collected (and still being collected) and paid for by you.
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Eastern and Northern European countries have 1000/1000 for $35 - $100 USD depending on the country lol

... in certain areas, and many of them pay much higher taxes and those tax dollars go directly to providing for the service that you may or may not use.


Point being for you and the previous poster, it isn't as cheap when you factor in the TOTAL amount paid. It's just that some payment arrangements are better HIDDEN than others because governments are involved. People forget to factor in the amount paid in TAXES to their monthly internet bill when governments get involved.
Edited by 47 Knucklehead - 2/28/13 at 6:23am
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Its 70$ a month for Google Fiber.

... plus untold million in tax payer dollars that were already collected (and still being collected) and paid for by you.

How about this, source?

In addition to that, I take it you don't watch TV or use roads, or drink water. All of them use taxes. The airwaves are federally owned, and leased to NBC, ABC, CBS etc.

I really don't understand the need for people to try and ruin good things.
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This shouldn't even be based on figures of demand. Were people demanding smartphones, laptops, LCDs before they were around? It should all be about improving your company on an ongoing basis rather than hitting a plateau and showing no progress. Pretty pathetic. We really need Google to EXPLODE their fiber all over the US. Then TW will cry and complain about Google monopolizing "their" industry rolleyes.gif

The argument about Google getting "free" treatment from the government is old and tired. Suck it up. The government didn't give anything away for free. There is definitely more to it than no money involved. Have any of you considered the slight possibility that Google agreed to provide the local government free fiber service for life? Sounds like your tax money is going to a much better purpose now, doesn't it? I'd much rather have my tax money go towards development of an amazing technological advancement than feeding Time Warner/etc. more money, because your taxes are paying for your government's internet connections anyways.
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Where are these millions of dollars...? Your source:
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Google received stunning regulatory concessions and incentives from local governments, including free access to virtually everything the city owns or controls: rights of way, central office space, power, interconnections with anchor institutions, marketing and direct mail, and office space for Google employees. City officials also expedited the permitting process and assigned staff specifically to help Google. One county even offered to allow Google to hang its wires on parts of utility poles—for free—that are usually off-limits to communications companies.

Second Link page 3, Clause D:
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Google will bear all of the costs for the Project, including but not limited to design,
engineering, construction, equipment and insurance for its work, except as up to the
drop point for its end users. In addition, Google will bear all the operating costs of the
fiber network during the term of this Agreement. City will not charge Google for access
to City’s assets and infrastructure.

These people sound enthusiastic about getting this done. I can't imagine what the infrastructure would do to business and small business alike.

By the way, that is American Capitalism. Googled payed 72$ million on taxes from their profit in 2011.

I am not wasting my time with an argumentative and uninformed forum member.
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