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post #11 of 59
I might be totally wrong, but I'm unaware that Apple offers a selection screen for their default browser? If a fine is had by one, all of them should... if at least this is really about large market share browsers having the power to push other providers like chrome under.

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post #12 of 59
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Originally Posted by 5entinel View Post

This whole fine thing is just silly. Issuing a fine for billion of dollars for a piece of software that's readily available for everyone to download and access? Come on...


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The real issue here is old people, I mean politicians, who don't understand how easy it is to install another browser. Same issue we had with SOPA, where uneducated (in technology) politicians were attempting to control the internet based off of their experience.
post #13 of 59
This is pretty unjust;
Android comes with its integrated browser, iOS/Mac OS come with Safari, Linux distros come with Firefox... and then you can download the alternatives for yourself.

Microsoft's OS is no different, so I don't see why they are being singled out. Either everyone should be fined, or no one.
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post #14 of 59
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Microsoft needs to drop EU support and let them rot in their own waste
You are quite wrong there ! -- The EU needs to drop Microsoft support .mad.gif
post #15 of 59
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Originally Posted by born2bwild View Post

This is pretty unjust;
Android comes with its integrated browser, iOS/Mac OS come with Safari, Linux distros come with Firefox... and then you can download the alternatives for yourself.

Microsoft's OS is no different, so I don't see why they are being singled out. Either everyone should be fined, or no one.
Yup. Its dumb as hell. Apple doesn't need to do this. Nor does any other desktop or mobile OS in existence. Very unfair. And it opens slippery slope questions like why not include a ballot for alternatives to Notepad and Paint. After all, including them with Windows is harming the business of companies that create competing products. rolleyes.gif
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post #16 of 59
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Originally Posted by born2bwild View Post

This is pretty unjust;
Android comes with its integrated browser, iOS/Mac OS come with Safari, Linux distros come with Firefox... and then you can download the alternatives for yourself.

Microsoft's OS is no different, so I don't see why they are being singled out. Either everyone should be fined, or no one.

Only reason it exists is because of MS' massive market share.

TBH the whole thing is stupid and should be dropped. No idea why they pushing this so much.
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post #17 of 59
Read the article and if your still unsure of what to think read some more. Here's the main point:
"The European Commission had accused Microsoft in October of breaking a promise to offer European consumers a choice of rival browsers in the previous version of its Windows operating system. The company made the pledge in 2009 to settle an EU antitrust investigation and stave off a penalty that could have been as much as 10 per cent of its global revenue."

Problem? Microsoft broke a settlement they made, not really sure how you can interpret that as: "Burn in hell EU for forcing the glorious Freedom Fighters at Microsoft to provide an option to use CommieTerrorist Browsers when installing windows "

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post #18 of 59
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Originally Posted by 5entinel View Post

This whole fine thing is just silly. Issuing a fine for billion of dollars for a piece of software that's readily available for everyone to download and access? Come on...


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I won't say I completely agree with the EU's decision but the whole thing is definitely not silly.

You do really think IE, especially IE back when it was their main browser option, maintained such a huge market share advantage because it was better than Opera and Firefox at the time? Or Chrome now?

IE's market dominance is due in no small part to Microsoft's near monoply of the OS market and the bundling of IE with said OS. The EU previously ruled that Microsoft had to give other browser options and at least in part Microsoft failed to comply with that order. Microsoft could have avoided this whole thing by staying compliant with the EU ruling. Whether they like it or not they have to follow rule of law in the countries they operate in.
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Only reason it exists is because of MS' massive market share.

TBH the whole thing is stupid and should be dropped. No idea why they pushing this so much.

Anti-trust.

There is a reason governments are careful to monitor and regulate businesses that control very large parts of a given market. Its because those businesses are prone to abusing their market position. This has been borne out time and time again, going all the way back to Rockefeller, Bell Telephone, and Edison's Motion Picture Patents company.
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>> Mr357
No, they should give everyone a choice, they've done it before... Go look it up.

They do have a choice; More than iOS users.
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Microsoft could ship Windows in the EU preloaded with IE, Firefox, Chrome and Opera, and the EU would fine them for shipping Windows with too many choices and confusing people.
     
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