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still for higher display the 3GB of vram will come in handy.go with the 7950.. it will be fun. just try to get the best one for your budget..
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I've decided on the single GPU solution. I am more of a single monitor gamer anyway. Even my GTX 560 (my old rig is going to my boyfriend) gets good FPS on a 1920 x 1080 display. So I have switched back to the SeaSonic 550W for the single GPU setup. The build is a little cheaper now, but not by much.

If ever ever decide to go dual monitor, will a single 7950 be able to produce acceptable FPS on a dual monitor setup?

My i5 will probably outlast my 7950 and my i5 will still be relevant when the next GPU generation arrives, correct?

I chose the 7950 over the 660 ti and 670 because of the larger size and faster speed of the memory on the 7950. I like eye candy! Ambient occlusion, high AA, etc.

My main worry with CPUs is that consoles are now going to be using more cores and are essentially PCs, which some argue will make PC ports much better, maybe encouraging developers to up the threads in games. I play a lot of BF3, which I know the 8530 is very good with, but I doubt I will even be able to see the difference between the 8530 and 3570K, as even my GTX 560 and Phenom II 955 BE run BF3 consistently above 30 frames.

I doubt you want to use a dual monitor setup for gaming, a monitor frame will be in the middle of your view, Imagine the crosshair in an FPS being split on two monitors.
If you want a game to run on more than one monitor the next step is 3 monitors and a 7950 will have a hard time maxing settings at 5760x1080.
If you plan to have to monitors and use one of them for a game while the other shows something different, the stress on the GPU will remain relatively unchanged from having a single 1080p monitor.

I generally experience that a CPU generally last 2 or 3 GPU cards, obviously depending on how often you upgrade and so forth. The i5 will probably still be relevant when you get a HD9xxx card or something similar.

Don't worry about the consoles and threads, it is impossible to predict what happens in a years time when the console are actually available + The Jaguar cores in the PS4 are not that awesome, they need 8 to achieve a good level of performance.

The added amount of memory does not help the 7950 at the moment. However texture sizes are increasing and it may become a factor in the future.
The additional memory bandwidth may boost the 7950 performance when AMD implements a new memory management core in their drivers later this year it may help in directcompute related usage as well. We have to wait and see on those potential benefits.
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I doubt you want to use a dual monitor setup for gaming, a monitor frame will be in the middle of your view, Imagine the crosshair in an FPS being split on two monitors.
If you want a game to run on more than one monitor the next step is 3 monitors and a 7950 will have a hard time maxing settings at 5760x1080.
If you plan to have to monitors and use one of them for a game while the other shows something different, the stress on the GPU will remain relatively unchanged from having a single 1080p monitor.

I generally experience that a CPU generally last 2 or 3 GPU cards, obviously depending on how often you upgrade and so forth. The i5 will probably still be relevant when you get a HD9xxx card or something similar.

Don't worry about the consoles and threads, it is impossible to predict what happens in a years time when the console are actually available + The Jaguar cores in the PS4 are not that awesome, they need 8 to achieve a good level of performance.

The added amount of memory does not help the 7950 at the moment. However texture sizes are increasing and it may become a factor in the future.
The additional memory bandwidth may boost the 7950 performance when AMD implements a new memory management core in their drivers later this year it may help in directcompute related usage as well. We have to wait and see on those potential benefits.

And just like that, I feel a bit better about my choice. It's always hard hitting the process order button. I am ordering pretty much everything from Newegg. I love their customer service, their shipping, the boxes they ship in, their prices, etc. All of thew popular tech sites write articles about the downfall of the PC, but it seems like a good time to invest in one. Especially with Steam being around. The only DOA item I ever got from them was one stick of G.Skill RAM, which is G.Skills fault. The RMA process over the phone was fast and really easy. I will keep my fingers crossed for NO DOA items. xD

Not to mention, I get Crysis 3 and BioShock Infinite FREE with the purchase of the 7950! NICE.
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I hear ya. Currently I am gaming on a 50 inch, 1080p, Plasma Panasonic. Absolutely gorgeous. I imagine the 1660p monitors are hella expensive.
You can get some nice Korean high res 1600p/1440p monitors from ebay at 400-600$, which is a no-brainer as the big brand alternatives price at around 700 and up for 1440p and much more expensive for 1600p. Naturally, the image isn't just on par with the more expensive ones, but if you're coming from a 1080p and aren't a huge screen..ophile? i wouldn't see any problem with it.

The 7950 shouldn't have problems with higher res monitor if you let go of some AAx which isn't really needed on this resolution anyway.
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take it from fuvlin.. he is a nice guy and his advises are always to the point...
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congrats on your purchase. and as runs2far and i said.. multi screen gaming is a bit of fancy. i have owned every console on the planet and 1 PC of each generation and i tend to buy my PCs at the end of each gen.. why because with proper overclocking and on the go upgrades i keep up with game requirements.

Yet cause i was married 2 years ago and i had no time for gaming with my old job i bounced out of the loop. but now i got a new job with better working hours "used to work in production team for a cell provider with obligation to be available 24/7" and now i just moved to other team with no calls at 2:00AM asking me to hurry to a down site biggrin.gif

so i'm also back in the business and i've already saved 1/3 of the budget i need for my rig biggrin.gif

wish you the best and i don't think your cpu will run out of juice for solid 3 years. your gpu might. but then you will either xfire that or replace it all around with a new one biggrin.gif

Have fun biggrin.gif
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I'm not fan of the V6GT, it's quite expensive for the performance and a bit noisy IIRC.
I'd look at the NZXT Havik 140 instead, it's ~$10 more but a much better performer and quieter.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835146011

Same with the fans, R4's aren't good fans and have fake specs. I'd go with Gelid Silent 12's (FDB bearing) or Cougar Turbine.

I would look at the Gigabyte Z77X-D3H, it's cheaper and a brillant motherboard.

Also the MSI 7950 tend to be more noisy than others, I'd look at Sapphire/Gigabyte/HIS IceQ instead.

500W PSU would be fine for the build, 650W for Crossfire.

I would look at a mechanical keyboard they're much better for typing. MX Brown's are my pick, it's pricy but worth the investment.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201051

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I'm not fan of the V6GT, it's quite expensive for the performance and a bit noisy IIRC.
I'd look at the NZXT Havik 140 instead, it's ~$10 more but a much better performer and quieter.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835146011

Same with the fans, R4's aren't good fans and have fake specs. I'd go with Gelid Silent 12's (FDB bearing) or Cougar Turbine.

I would look at the Gigabyte Z77X-D3H, it's cheaper and a brillant motherboard.

Also the MSI 7950 tend to be more noisy than others, I'd look at Sapphire/Gigabyte/HIS IceQ instead.

500W PSU would be fine for the build, 650W for Crossfire.

I would look at a mechanical keyboard they're much better for typing. MX Brown's are my pick, it's pricy but worth the investment.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201051

Not a fan of the Storm Scout 2 either but I guess it's personal preference here. smile.gif

I love the Logitech keyboard. I have the same one and love it. If I can use a gamepad over a mouse and keyboard, I am happy. That may be blasphemous to most PC gamers, but so be it. Its being passed down to my boyfriend along with the original Storm Scout, which I also love dearly. I don't mind noise too much. I will most likely have the volume up during anything that stresses my GPU anyway. I doubt it will be loud on idle. As far as the cheap R4 fans go, I have never had a problem with them, and will probably temporary anyway.
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So, this is my final build. Other than objecting out of preference over performance, does anyone spot any red flags? I am talking serious issues only.


Edited by Joeful - 3/2/13 at 12:56am
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Logitech keyboards are flashy but not that practical and over priced. and as a gamer on both worlds pc and console.. i sometime just pick up my controller and ditch the mouse and keyboard.
Mechanical keyboards are nice as well. but for me it's all hype and the differences can't be even recognized. My wife is killing me to get her a logitech g110 and i'm acting like i heard nothing lol biggrin.gif
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Seriously
Get the Gigabyte Z77-UD3H it's Brilliant
The cooler master evo 212 is better bang for the buck.. easily hitting 4.2GHz if you wanna OC.

other than that.. you are good to go biggrin.gif
Edited by Ramzinho - 3/1/13 at 5:33am
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