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Only problem I've had is benching. The name of the game is BSOD's and shut-downs in benchmarking. I have had several corrupt OS installs on SSD's due to them,while I've never had that problem with platters. Still worth it though. Having no page file like many do makes it worse.

It does effect mechanical drives, too. At least in my experience.

I have had to fix Windows (7 and 8) several times each due to BSODs from overclocking and stress testing.
 
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how bout ssd cache is it corrupt the saved data too ?
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This is why ZFS is so good as a filesystem, to detect corruptions like this.

FreeBSD 10 is shipping with ZFS trim support, I believe this will be a world first. Other operating systems will have to play catch up.
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Always assume that something will break sooner or later. The key is to find what will most likely break first, and how to accommodate the flaw.

A device reaches perfection when at the end of its operating lifetime, everything breaks at the same time (no weak spots).

wow that is somehow metephoricaly inspiring redface.gif
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I'm assuming you meant UPS, in which case - http://www.overclock.net/t/1305395/the-uninterrupting-uninterruptible-power-supply-ups-guide/0_30

That guide is actually pretty decent.

I've been running this one for about 18 months and I had another cyberpower that wasn't sine wave (for my last build which didn't have active PFC)



Look guys, this isn't news we don't know. Electronics in general do not deal well with power failure. There is a high chance of drive corruption and data loss with mech drives as well. I can attest to it. I can tell you that not just SSDs are effected by brown outs and power loss. So are GPUs, Motherboards, CPUs, RAM, even case fans. As a group of enthusiasts I think it is almost moronic for you guys to spend 2000 dollars on a rig (or more) and not invest in a UPS. I haven't run a computer without a UPS in 5 years.


I know we rag on cyberpower (about prebuilt computers). But Cyberpower and APC really make quality stuff. I've never used APC but they get good ratings by the people that use them. I've never had an issue with my Cyberpower.


I know this is about datacenters but you guys as power users and enthusiasts should ALL be running one.
 
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Right, because nobody would ever use the SSD for anything besides making their PC boot faster.

I'm not personally worried about it, but I can see why this could be bad for data centers. I would assume they would have enough backups that they wouldn't actually loose data though, just time restoring it.
Honestly, that's almost all I use mine for....
I have a few of my favorite games symlinked on there. Otherwise, I don't store much on my ssd. While I enjoy the speedboost, I've had an SSD completely die on me before (yay sandforce), and I'm very particular about what I put on them.
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Honestly, that's almost all I use mine for....
I have a few of my favorite games symlinked on there. Otherwise, I don't store much on my ssd. While I enjoy the speedboost, I've had an SSD completely die on me before (yay sandforce), and I'm very particular about what I put on them.

I don't have the OS on mine at all tongue.gif. My raid card and other stuff makes BIOS to windows logo take so long that the SSD wouldn't make a notable dent in boot times. I also just throw whatever on it... I figure it's not worth worrying about. What's the point of having the drive if I'm afraid to use it how I want?
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I lost two SSDs to this, unfortunately....
I never looked back after that, for they were expensive & I'm too lazy to go do the warranty thing, lesson learned!

I suppose the only question I have is, what about all those other people out there who bought their SSD but were not clearly warned about this problem before they bought them? Wouldn't that entitle them to a class action?

Seems like to me the SSD makers knew their products were flawed and proceeded to sell them anyway, and that's doesn't seem very ethical to me...
Edited by _GTech - 3/2/13 at 2:15pm
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I lost two SSDs to this, unfortunately....
I never looked back after that, for they were expensive & I'm too lazy to go do the warranty thing, lesson learned!

I suppose the only question I have is, what about all those other people out there who bought their SSD but were not clearly warned about this problem before they bought them? Wouldn't that entitle them to a class action?

Seems like to me the SSD makers knew their products were flawed and proceeded to sell them anyway, and that's doesn't seem very ethical to me...

I'm on my third SSD. None of them have failed. All the major issues from back when SSDs first came to market have been fixed through firmware. I guess the lesson here is to buy a UPS. Mine has saved me from quite a few brown and black outs. I would be running one regardless of the kind of drive technology I happened to be using. It's nice to have the peace of mind that whatever you're working on at the time won't randomly be lost from not being saved or become corrupted from the drive writing when the power loss occurred.

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Anybody have an opinion or link about how to size a UPS?
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