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Find me a 990fx mobo that has a PCI Express 3.0 slot on it.

Now tell me again why anyone here is recommending an AMD build to a gamer?

Future proof yourself and do a Z77 build.
post #22 of 36
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Originally Posted by LuckyDuck69 View Post

Find me a 990fx mobo that has a PCI Express 3.0 slot on it.

Now tell me again why anyone here is recommending an AMD build to a gamer?

Future proof yourself and do a Z77 build.

Because PCIe 3.0 is meaningless for everyone except those actively trying to bottleneck the PCI bus and will be for the foreseeable future?

As is with a lot of "future proofing", by the time your PCIe 3.0 decision becomes relevant your computer no longer will be. Better to concentrate on things that will actually make a noticeable difference.

Edit: Oh, and BTW, z77 is a great platform, I highly recommend it.
Edited by Backwoods166 - 3/7/13 at 4:51pm
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post #23 of 36
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Originally Posted by LuckyDuck69 View Post

Find me a 990fx mobo that has a PCI Express 3.0 slot on it.

Now tell me again why anyone here is recommending an AMD build to a gamer?

Future proof yourself and do a Z77 build.

Z77 is dead and when Haswell comes, AM3+ / X79 is more futureproof
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Z77 is dead and when Haswell comes, AM3+ / X79 is more futureproof

If a socket will be dead in 3-4 if not more years, I really don't see how you can get more future proof.
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If a socket will be dead in 3-4 if not more years, I really don't see how you can get more future proof.

lol... agreed. 1 human year is a lifetime in computer years these days. r&d is getting ridiculous... too fast.

i build systems daily. not just one... usually average around 4. its what i do for work. i also worked for Asus in their phone tech support office for a long time. i like to think that i know some things about the industry. i make the annual pilgrimage to CES every year to meet up with old friends (although i missed this year sadly). from my friends at Biostar, NZXT, and Samsung... etc... i stay in the loop on most events in the business. with all of that said, i can tell you that this is fact. AMD is in a world of **** right now and they don't have a whole lot up their sleeve. there is a new line of video cards slated for later this year. BUT... just take my advice and stick to Intel and nVidia at the moment. wait it out for a year or two. i was an AMD fan boy for the longest time. built many AMD systems for customers. but they have fallen behind in the hardware race.

obviously, there are certain situations that an AMD build would still be fine. i still do AMD builds for elderly people or people just needing a very simple pc to surf the net or watch movies... etc. but if my customer is a gamer on any level i build with Intel and nVidia. from the sound of the original post... i'd say this person does not upgrade very often. that is an important piece of information. if he doesn't have the luxury of dropping a lot of coin then he probably wants the ability to drop a PCI Express 3.0 card in his system in 3 years and have the motherboard that will fully utiliize it. i understand the bandwidth restrictions... blah blah blah. but there is a pretty large difference in a mobo with 2.0 vs 3.0.

take all of this with a grain of salt if you will. just stating my opinion based off current industry news and available hardware.

ALSO NOTE: the Intel i5-3570k does NOT have hyper threading. so that may be a concern.
Edited by LuckyDuck69 - 3/8/13 at 1:38am
post #26 of 36
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Sorry for the long delay school has been kicking my rear end lately.

So an update I picked up 3770k from microcenter, picked up some used corsair 1600 4x2 vengeance ram from a local craigslist ad, and also got a seagate 1TB (single platter?) drive from a schoolmate.

I'm hoping some of what I got was a good choice, the HDD and ram I got for super cheap!

I'm having trouble with GPU choices I see 7950s, 7970s are good cards for upper middle end cards? I know the 7970 will run most games I want to play at max with at least 50 fps, but can a 7950 do the same? Would two 7950s be a better choice then say a 7970 or ghz edition? I'd be willing to bite the bullet and pick up a 7970 or ghz edition if its worth it. What about GTX cards? Would a 670 give me anything close to what a 7950 or 7970 would give me?

Then onward to overclocking GPUs would I need some form of a aftermarket GPU cooler to stay in acceptable temps?
post #27 of 36
Well congrats for the purchases. For the gpu question.
When comparing the two teams Red and Green. It's really up to what you will do. If only gaming and little editing go Red as the vram is higher 3GB compared to 2GB for team green. While if you need to use cuda or physx it's better go team green.
The best bang for the buck is the 7950 maxing out most of the games on 1080p .
When it comes to overclocking those cards you have to know that the gigabyte OC edition is voltage unlcoked same as thw ghz edition which comes with a bios switch where you have an extra bios to flash and switch between the two of them.
I would vote for the sapphire GHZ edition if you are not going to water cool it as the board is not reference and you will need a custom water block for it. And it also has better components on the card.

For your budget and the bargains you got I would recommend the 7970GHZ edition which will keep smashing everything you throw at for a nice time.


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post #28 of 36
Also forgot to mention that you will not need aftermarket coolers for the ghz edition. You can reach nice oc with stock voltages.

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post #29 of 36
Single overclocked 7950 or 670 can come close to maxing out nearly any game. Do a bios flash on either of them, and push those clocks even further; putting you above 680 or 7970 speeds.
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So would buying a Gigabyte windforce 7950 OCing that and using that for a while, then further down the road if needed by a second card for crossfire recommended?

Also like I said this comp will mainly be used for streaming while gaming, ill do some minor video software but nothing major.


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