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Hello everyone, I have viewing the forums a lot lately and getting a general idea for how to set up my next gaming rig.
Right now I'm running on:
CPU: AMD FX-4170 @ 4.6GHz
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3
Power Supply: Cooler Master GX750
GPU: HIS AMD/ATI Radeon HD 6790 Iceq Turbo X
CPU Cooler: Antec Kuhler 620
RAM: Patriot Viper Division 2 Xtreme Series (2x4Gb) @ 1866Mhz

Yes, yes, I know, it's a bit junky for a gaming rig, but that's why I am building new one. So the plan was to make a beast gaming computer that could handle just about anything but not be as crazy as throwing 3 GTX Titans in and an extreme series processor. That's a little much. I also wanted to give this a theme. My last build was just a bunch of chaos shoved into a case with a bunch of blue LED fans. So the next one will be a military theme, and yes, I know that's been done before but my brother is a Marine, and I have a lot of respect for the military. So, onto the fun stuff. The idea started when I saw an unboxing video for Antec's new GX700 case. Although, I'm a huge fan of Corsair and would love their C70, but I'm a poor college kid... well, will be soon (I start this fall as an engineering major)... but I guess that really doesn't matter... . So, I placed an order for a GX700 through one of the few companies that were selling it close to its original price. Well, it turns out, many other people had the same idea, so it's on back order and they don't know when they'll be getting more in. They said within this week, but it's been a while. Another reason why I'm holding off on buying most of the components right now is because I'm waiting for savings bonds to be shipped in the mail and that's just a hassle. The price cap for this build is $2000.

My thoughts as far as components go, were to pick three and narrow it down from there.
So for motherboards, I was weighing in the ASUS Sabertooth Z77, the MSI MPower Z77, and the ASRock OCFormula.
Well I really liked all the boards, and they all were in my price range but some had to be eliminated. First to go was the ASRock OCFormula, after much persuasion from my close gaming friends. This was due to the fact that I'll probably never use half the features and I'm not about to go and try to set an overclocking world record. As much as I love the Lambo on the front of the box (I'm a huge gear head as well), it was too much for this build. So I was down to two and I really like both. the MSI board looked really well build and had a lot of cool features, plus the flat black went with my theme. But that one didn't quite feel right and I'll get to that when I talk about GPUs. So that leaves the ASUS Sabertooth Z77, I've read all the reviews, watched all the unboxings and reviews, and checked all the features, this is the main board going into my gaming rig.

For GPUs, it was kind of a toss up, because I've seen a lot of benchmarks and reviews of most of the modern cards out there. And I've met many people who have their opinions on AMD vs. Nvidia. Well I won't spoil the surprise. So for my graphics cards I had the MSI GTX 680 Lightning, the Sapphire HD 7970 Vapor-X 3Gb, or 2x MSI GTX660ti Overclocked Power Editions. And I liked all of them, they all had really good reviews, they'd all match the theme, and they can run all the latest games at the highest settings. So the first to go was the 680 Lightning, while it's a very good card, and it'd be cool to get one now and maybe another one later in the year, I just couldn't do it. I thought, if I want to run SLI 680s eventually, by the time I have that set up, the 700 series will be out and I'll still be behind. The next was the Sapphire card, while I liked the looks and all the extra features it had, it couldn't keep up with my choice. I decided to go with 2x MSI GTX 660ti OC/PE because they overclock really well, and they can run games like BF3 on full settings on my 1920 x 1080 24" monitor from ASUS (the VS248H) which is a big deal for me, because my current card will lock up even on some low res settings. Some benchmarks said up to 120fps in BF3 on 1080p @ ultra.

So for confirmed parts I have:
CPU: Intel I7-3770k
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Green 2x4Gb @ 1600MHz
Motherboard: ASUS Sabertooth Z77

For a mouse and keyboard I plan to use Corsair's K60 and M65 Mil. Green (of course).

One of the things I'm trying to decide right now is power supply. Either, a Corsair AX760i or AX860i, or an OCZ ZX Series 850W.

I'm open to all suggestions, just keep it clean, and support your thoughts. Sorry for the long winded first post, I hope plenty of people see this, I really want some feedback.

ALSO!!: I plan on doing unboxing videos of all the products I order, I'll post them on youtube, but I'll be sure to throw the links in when they are ready. I will be using a iPod Touch 5th Gen for all the unboxings and I'll try to get my Canon Rebel camera out to shoot the build video.

PLEASE NO HATE!!!!
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From what I've read, Corsair's AX line suffers disproportionally from coil whine. The OCZ ZX is OK, but you can get better units for less. The ones that come to mind are the following:

Seasonic X750 Gold
Seasonic X Series X-850
Rosewill CAPSTONE-750-M
Rosewill Tachyon-750

The Tachyon is a particularly good buy right now since it's a 750w 80-Plus Platinum-rated model selling for $119 shipped without any rebates.
Edited by svenge - 3/2/13 at 1:29am
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I checked all of those out, and you're right. They are some pretty sweet PSUs. I'm fond of SeaSonic, one of my buddies has one and I always liked how simple and reliable it is. Although, I will do more looking at that Rosewill, I wanna know everything about a product before I set it in stone. Thanks Svenge!!

Also, Everyone, I'm up for suggestions on fans. Right now, I'm looking at going with 2 BitFenix Spectre Pro 120mm front intake fans and 4 Cooler Master Blade Master 120mm for push/pull on the H100i and then using the H100i fans for the side and rear fans. Any other suggestions? I'm mainly looking at a good middle ground between cfm and noise level.
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This looks like a really interesting build and I will be following it. Subbed. Love you choice of SLI 660 ti, I would to get pair myself in the future.
 
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Thanks a lot JD2195, I'm really looking forward to getting started with this build. And thanks again to Svenge, I am now going with SeaSonic's X-850 for a power supply. I'll let you guys know as soon as I order the parts, and check my profile to see the rigbuilder set up. thumb.gif
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Hey man, one of your "gaming friends" here. I just saw that you were looking for case fans. I found two that don't completely throw off the military theme.

The 1st being the XIGMATEK FCB, which pushes about 60cfm, and stays a bit less than 20db loud: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233035

The 2nd being the Xigmatek AOS, which pushed about 90cfm, and stays at around 25db for $5 more: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233101

Hope this helps! biggrin.gif
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From what I've read, Corsair's AX line suffers disproportionally from coil whine. The OCZ ZX is OK, but you can get better units for less. The ones that come to mind are the following:
The Tachyon is a particularly good buy right now since it's a 750w 80-Plus Platinum-rated model selling for $119 shipped without any rebates.

I've used a Corsair HX850 for about 2 1/2 years and it's been nothing but reliable and quiet. Unless I needed 1000+w of power, the AX860i is my first choice for a new PSU. Every review I've read (Ex. JonnyGuru, Techpowerup, PCPer, HardwareHeaven, and KitGuru to list a few) say the same thing - outstanding/one of the best PSUs whose only real negative is price (FWIW, I do agree with JonnyGuru about Corsair's flat cable design though). None of the reviews I've read mention anything about coil whine, nor so far, has any of the customer comments on NewEgg or Amazon. I'm not saying that one or more AX860i owners haven't experienced coil whine, but it certainly doesn't seem any where near common.

If you can afford it ( $199 at Amazon & might be cheaper elsewhere), I recommend getting the Corsair AX860i. IMO better to go with an 850w PSU for better "future proofing." You may pass on 2x.GTX680 now, but that doesn't mean you won't want to go 2xGTX780/770 (or Radeon equivalent) in a year or so. The extra 100w also helps if you plan to OC dual high-end graphics cards.

I think either a Seasonic 850w model or the Corsair AX860 non "i" model are good lower price alternatives if the AX860i proves too expensive. If you think 750w is enough after taking future upgrades into account, I still prefer either a Seasonic PSU or Corsair (AX760/760i) over Rosewill. Rosewill PSUs are good, but IMO not as good as the top-tier PSUs. (ex Hardware Secrets review). Plus, at least one review had questions about Rosewill build quality (JonnyGuru Techyon 1000w review). While the Rosewill models are less expensive, given the importance of having a good PSU (not just overall reliability, but also voltage regulation for other expensive components), IMO it's worthwhile to spend a little extra money on one.

Two more items:

(1) I'm not sure what the timing is for your build, but if you can wait three more months or so, Intel is supposed to release Haswell in early June. Haswell CPUs will use a different socket = you won't be able to drop one into your Ivy Bridge motherboard. From what I've read, there won't be much of a performance improvement over Ivy Bridge CPUs other than for graphics. However, at least with a Haswell motherboard, you might be able to upgrade to next gen after Haswell (can't remember codename/too lazy to look up tongue.gif). Plus, it's possible that NVIDIA releases a GTX7xx card around that time as well. Just FYI/reminder - Intel could very well delay release or it simply may not be worth waiting for you.

(2) I like your theme thumb.gif and want to see some pics as well once you get it built. biggrin.gif

Hope this helps & GL on your build.
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Thanks a lot Goesto11, I agree with you ideas on power supplies. Back in the day, my father had a pretty decent, for the time period, gaming computer, and a storm fried his power supply but the computer was fine, so he went out and got a cheap PSU from CompUSA or something, and that's what finally killed the Compy. So I know skimping on a PSU is a bad idea. The reason why I liked the AX860i was for the same reasons you pointed out, it has great reviews and I trust Corsair as company. Plus it will be able to support 2x 680s without too much overclocking. As for the 700 series, that's what I'm really waiting for, and from my point of view, both AMD and Nvidia have been getting better with making their cards more efficient so I expect that it will be able to handle either 760ti's, 770s, or 780s in SLi. If need be, I'll just upgrade to a 1000w when that time comes.

As for the Haswell chip, they say that its release is going to hit around the time of Computex in June. But from past experience with their Ivy Bridge, my thoughts are that it won't be for a few months after. As for gaming performance, I doubt there will be games that will be able to take advantage of it's extra power and how long will it take motherboard companies to make a decent board that would fit this build? I'm going to stick with an Ivy Bridge for now. I'll probably go for an update when Broadwell or Skylake comes to market. By then I'll be out of college and in need of a quality computer that can run CAD software. And maybe by then we'll see the 800 series from Nvidia, the 9000 series from AMD/ATI, and maybe even the GTX Super Titan tongue.gif

And IMO, the LGA 2011 socket and chips are huge, I can only imagine how the Haswell is going to come out. It might lead to bigger motherboards. Just a though. I think, by the time I get my bachelor's in 2017 and hopefully get a decent job, I'll definitely be in the market to build the best of the best. This build is only meant to be middle of field. Thanks for all the advice though. I'll be sure to weigh in the AX860i again.
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StrifeWolfe, glad I could help. The Corsair AX860i is a great PSU, and if you only go 2xSLI, it should be plenty for this rig or your next. As for Hawell, you could be right about delays. Nothing wrong with building an Ivy Bridge based PC now. Any performance improvements for gaming (if you use a discrete graphics card(s)) short of a die shrink are likely to be minimal and unnoticeable IMO. I think waiting for Haswell is only worth it if one plans to upgrade CPUs with the next die shrink.

Hope all goes well with the build and post a few pics when you're done. biggrin.gif
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So this is kind of the first item for the build , Rosewill RTK-045 45 Piece Tool kit. Pretty happy with the quality. And I got it for pretty cheap on Newegg. Made a video unboxing, but it was boring, shakey and I sound horrible because I'm still sick.





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