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Did you not read the same review I just read. The frame times for AMD are horrible. Framerate means nothing. I have 3 7970's. I will take 12ms frame times at 60fps, over 25ms frame times at 120fps all day long.

People are really reading these reviews wrong FPS doesn't mean much when you have really high average frametimes. My 7970's can push high frames but that doesn't mean its smoother than at one Titan or one 680.

I have been buying cards based on fps for years and that's how its going to be.

I am yet to experience this frame time problem that magically appeared when the 7970 got faster than the 680.
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post #102 of 131
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I am yet to experience this frame time problem that magically appeared when the 7970 got faster than the 680.


I haven't noticed this frame lag problem either. It must be real because AMD has been working on the drivers to fix it. HD79XX cards are very powerful and I'm looking forward to any tweak in performance AMD drivers will offer.
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post #103 of 131
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I was more referring to the trolling part of the posts.
But I do stand on what I said. Most people are jealous, even if they don't plan, do plan, or think its stupid to pay 1000$ for 10 fps. People are jealous, even if its a bit. You can't really help it.

And regarding new cards on the horizon, the GTX 7xx series isn't that far, and as far as we know, they should get the GK110 core, or at least a good variation of it. This will reduce the performance difference between the 680 and the titan to a very low difference.
Maybe it will have "only" 2-3GB of memory, and not as powerful in compute, but I agree that it will be much much cheaper, and more sensible to buy.
But in the end of the day, how much sensible are those top 1% of OCN really are? tongue.gif

Again, Titan offers tomorrows performance today.
By your logic, wouldn't it be better to wait 4-5 years before buying a GPU? that future GPU will destroy Titan for a fraction of the price.
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post #104 of 131
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Again, Titan offers tomorrows performance today.
By your logic, wouldn't it be better to wait 4-5 years before buying a GPU? that future GPU will destroy Titan for a fraction of the price.

Tomorrows's performance today...lachen.gif

Nice joke.

Aren't new video cards out every 8- 12 months? Occasionally Nvidia is very late, but still with a year.
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post #105 of 131
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Tomorrows's performance today...lachen.gif

Nice joke.

Aren't new video cards out every 8- 12 months? Occasionally Nvidia is very late, but still with a year.

Glad I made you tinkle inside.

7000 has been out for more than '8-12' months and nothing is coming for another,
wait for it...........
8-12 months.

Nothing is touching (or feeling up) Titan's performance this year.
If that's too much for you to understand....well, you can tinkle some more.
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post #106 of 131
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Again, Titan offers tomorrows performance today.
By your logic, wouldn't it be better to wait 4-5 years before buying a GPU? that future GPU will destroy Titan for a fraction of the price.

Please try not to twist words. This is not politics or elections for the government or something.

What I am saying is that even though it's "tomorrows performance today", this is not a "wait 4-5 years". This is waiting 4-5 months at most. There is a huge difference.
Saving 2000$ by waiting 4-5 months is huge in any standard. Unless you don't pay for them, or you make 2000$ in a day.

What you are saying on the other hand, is good for us to buy 55" TVs with 4K resolution now at the price of 35,000$, because it's "tomorrows performance today".

If a person can afford it, go for it. I just think that in a couple of months, you will get just as good GPUs for half the price. Hell, now you can start looking into buying second hand 680s from people who are buying titans for even less. The 680 will still be strong for at least a year unless some miracle happens and 4K monitors come out in a very low and affordable price (which I seriously doubt).

To sum it up, I don't see a reason to buy "yesterdays performance in 4 months, today". Its like upgrading to a 3970X from a 3930K with IB-E might be coming soon. Useless really (even without IB-E), but if you feel the absolute need for it and can afford it, go for it.
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Glad I made you tinkle inside.

7000 has been out for more than '8-12' months and nothing is coming for another,
wait for it...........
8-12 months.

Nothing is touching (or feeling up) Titan's performance this year.
If that's too much for you to understand....well, you can tinkle some more.

Unless nvidia claimed differently, the 7xx series is still scheduled to be released in the summer.
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post #107 of 131
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Please try not to twist words. This is not politics or elections for the government or something.

What I am saying is that even though it's "tomorrows performance today", this is not a "wait 4-5 years". This is waiting 4-5 months at most. There is a huge difference.
Saving 2000$ by waiting 4-5 months is huge in any standard. Unless you don't pay for them, or you make 2000$ in a day.

What you are saying on the other hand, is good for us to buy 55" TVs with 4K resolution now at the price of 35,000$, because it's "tomorrows performance today".

If a person can afford it, go for it. I just think that in a couple of months, you will get just as good GPUs for half the price. Hell, now you can start looking into buying second hand 680s from people who are buying titans for even less. The 680 will still be strong for at least a year unless some miracle happens and 4K monitors come out in a very low and affordable price (which I seriously doubt).

To sum it up, I don't see a reason to buy "yesterdays performance in 4 months, today". Its like upgrading to a 3970X from a 3930K with IB-E might be coming soon. Useless really (even without IB-E), but if you feel the absolute need for it and can afford it, go for it.

If you want that 4k TV (whatever that is) now, you need to fork the requested amount.
If you want to wait and call the people who bought it now numbnutts, that's not cool.
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post #108 of 131
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If you want that 4k TV (whatever that is) now, you need to fork the requested amount.
If you want to wait and call the people who bought it now numbnutts, that's not cool.

Did you call anyone numbnutt?
I said if they can afford it, go for it (and in afford it I mean it will not make you have to stop buying food or give up on something else for it). But I said that for most people, its not sensible to fork that amount.
The only person I would call numbnutt is you because you seem to not be able to understand what you are reading.
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post #110 of 131
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I have been buying cards based on fps for years and that's how its going to be.

I am yet to experience this frame time problem that magically appeared when the 7970 got faster than the 680.

Its measurable just like fps I'm not sure what your point is. It is something that can be measured on any GPU including very old hardware, it didn't appear out of no where (magically). If you have 200 frames in a second and those frames are drawn a average of 30ms between each frame. And then you have another GPU 75 fps and the frametime is 8ms on average. Your going to have a much smoother frame rate overall with 75fps because they are evenly displayed to your eye with a timing your eye can adjust to and expect when the frame will be delivered.
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