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Hello Overclock people,

1)
I was looking for a mechanical keyboard with MX Blue switches.

2)
The Razer blackwidow 2013 had MX blue switches, although I didn't really like the gimmicky design to it -I still bought it. I never owned a Razer product before. In fact, I never bought a keyboard before..this is virgin territory for me.

3)
No CD in the box. I figured that I'll have to download it

4)
Before I did, I took some time to read the agreement and why this ''spynapse 2.0'' was absolutely necessary in order to just USE a keyboard?

5)
Screw it, I'll just download the legacy drivers.

6) Read this:
http://help.razersupport.com/us-en/resolution.asp?sid=073244130302085151122087&pid=400001155&pnm=Razer+BlackWidow+2013&seid=400003000&pos=Windows&top=Drivers&rid=400004425

7) Read this thread too:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1323093/razer-razer-synapse-2-0-used-for-always-on-data-mining

TOS agreement Razer:

“User Generated Information” means any information made available to Razer through your use of the Software. Subject to the Privacy Policy mentioned above, you expressly grant Razer the complete and irrevocable right to use, reproduce, modify, create derivative works from, distribute, transmit, broadcast, and otherwise communicate, and publicly display and perform the User Generated Information and derivative works thereof in any form, anywhere, with or without attribution to you, and without any notice or compensation to you of any kind.

By using Razer Synapse 2.0 (“Synapse”), the Subscriber agrees that Razer may collect aggregate information, individual information, and personally identifiable information. Razer may share aggregate information and individual information with other parties. Razer shall not share personally identifiable information with other parties, except as described in the policy below.

http://www.razerzone.com/synapse2/subscriber-agreement
http://www.razerzone.com/synapse2/privacy-policy


Why make a new thread geheugensteun?

Razer went one step further in their new 2013 product line-up by DISABLING legacy drivers. This means that the ONLY option you have is to install spyware on your computer. The thought alone is truly abominable if you consider that their products are already overpriced pieces of shiny marketing toys.

I will be calling the store I bought the keyboard from, and report driver failure. Never again shall I violate my personal privacy and unwittingly pay for it.
Edited by geheugensteun - 3/3/13 at 3:06am
post #2 of 9
More Razer shenanigans, I see.

So if you buy this product (or any 2013 product, if you are correct) but refuse to install their spyware, do you still loose partial functionality?
 
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How about total functionality? I have a 2012 black widow, but it is literally non functional until the drivers are installed. I think it is kind of funny that if you use a Razer mouse/kb, you have to have a backup set, so that if/when you get a new computer, you have something to use in order to install the drivers to use your HIDs. I was a fan of Razer back in the day, but they just keep upping the douche quotient along with their prices it seems tongue.gif
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I have the original Black Widow, and it has no requirement of any kind to have a driver installed. With that said, I've been using Snyapse anyway because it has a useful setting where I can have the keyboard light turn off when the display is off. But after reading this, I might just get rid of it...
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You'll need to remove the banned word from point 5.
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I have always strayed from buying Razer products. While I believe they are pretty decent quality, I just feel like they are slightly overpriced and I always aim for the best possible bang for my buck. (i.e. a Cooler Master Quickfire TK Blue I just ordered for $72 shipped)
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post #7 of 9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrLinky View Post

More Razer shenanigans, I see.

So if you buy this product (or any 2013 product, if you are correct) but refuse to install their spyware, do you still loose partial functionality
?
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Originally Posted by MKUL7R4 View Post

I have always strayed from buying Razer products. While I believe they are pretty decent quality, I just feel like they are slightly overpriced and I always aim for the best possible bang for my buck. (i.e. a Cooler Master Quickfire TK Blue I just ordered for $72 shipped)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kuad View Post

How about total functionality? I have a 2012 black widow, but it is literally non functional until the drivers are installed. I think it is kind of funny that if you use a Razer mouse/kb, you have to have a backup set, so that if/when you get a new computer, you have something to use in order to install the drivers to use your HIDs. I was a fan of Razer back in the day, but they just keep upping the douche quotient along with their prices it seems tongue.gif

The 2013> Razer products lose COMPLETE functionality without the Synapse 2.0 program. And with complete, I mean literally complete....press all the buttons you want...it won't work -even the LEDs don't work.


With <2012 Razer products, you can atleast use the legacy drivers to preserve the basic functionality.


This is a headsup for you guys, lest you will not fall in the same trap as I did.


Edited by geheugensteun - 3/3/13 at 3:06am
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I was just thinking about this and I realized that this is actually sinister in a way. What else would motivate Razer to FORCE users of their products to use a software that's meant for managing one device on multiple PC's (a function that not many users actually require or use)? There's no reason in my mind that they wouldn't just provide a standard driver to go along as well for those without an internet connection, unless of course there's some sort of financial gain involved with selling information somewhere in here. It's very suspicious. Needless to say, I've uninstalled Synapse. Good thing I have a 2011 Black Widow and don't require it.
post #9 of 9
For what it's worth, Razer updated some of the legacy drivers and it contains a software called G-Spy.

I noticed it when I went and downloaded Razer DeathAdder 3.5G driver from Razer's site (I didn't have my version 3.0.1 driver on portable hard drive at the time, the updated version is 3.0.5, they must have released it sometime in the last year).

So get the version before the ones you see on Razer's site.

It's pathetic, updating their legacy drivers to install an additional software if they can't get users to use their Synapse 2.0 software.

edit: I looked around a bit, it appears that G-Spy is a software script for macros, I'm still not convinced, why did they add it if 3.0.1 worked fine, even without this so called software script for macros?
Edited by Idarzoid - 3/3/13 at 6:43am
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