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Anyone know a good way to do this? ive read things about using partition managers to shrink the drive and use a cloning tool, i tried this but every clone tool i tried read the 1TB drive as a 1TB drive after shrinking the volume to only the OS. Intel's free migration tool just doesnt want to only read the data, the entire drive is read.

i am in the process of trying a "Recovery partition trick" where i create a recovery partition on my USB thumb drive, take out the HDD and replace it with the SSD, boot into teh recovery partiton on the thumb drive and recover the OS onto the new SSD.

Has anyone tried this way?

THANKS!!
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i am creating an install disk as well from win 8, However, the samsung website does not have the drivers for Win 8 on their website, along with any of the necessary software that the laptop has integrated for other features, this is NOT the route i want to go as i want to keep some of that software. (not bloatware, "drivers" essentially)

This is very embarrassing as i have a Network+ certification and am working on my A+ certification.

Please help so i feel better about my terrible fear of destroying my $900 laptop
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for cloning a drive you need another dirve with the same or higher volume, i found this out the hard way
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for cloning a drive you need another dirve with the same or higher volume, i found this out the hard way

yeah, i found a few threads on other forums, where you litterally trick the clone software into thinking the "shrunk volume" IS the entire disk, allowing you to therefore "clone" just the image of the OS and all drivers etc. onto your smaller ssd.

But i could not trick the migration tool....it is smarter than me
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I would not clone a HDD over to SSD, as this would be a massive performance loss for you.
Always install clean on SSD from HDD, as they have different methods of storing data wink.gif
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I would not clone a HDD over to SSD, as this would be a massive performance loss for you.
Always install clean on SSD from HDD, as they have different methods of storing data wink.gif
I cloned several HDDs to SSDs with Paragon Migrate OS to SSD 3.0. Worked fine and the SSDs work at rated transfer speeds. I don't know if the new drive has to be as big or bigger than the drive your transferring from but I think this tool will let you work around that. My SSDs were all larger so I didn't have to worry about it. Maybe some Google searching will give you the answer.
    
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It's not a good idea to clone an image from an HDD to an SSD as go4life already said! Just do a clean install....you'll end in a while because of the new SSD speed! Anyway if you want to try cloning it..you could try with macrium reflect..it should work and it's free.
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It's not a good idea to clone an image from an HDD to an SSD as go4life already said! Just do a clean install....you'll end in a while because of the new SSD speed! Anyway if you want to try cloning it..you could try with macrium reflect..it should work and it's free.
Macrium Reflect won't clone from HDD to SSD unless the partition on the HDD is aligned. There is a program called AS SSD that is suppose to tell you if your partition is aligned but I've never tried it. The Paragon program is still your best solution short of a clean install IMHO.
    
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Acronis tim is my favorite one to use, another good free one is called partition wizard home edition. They have an .iso on their website for a bootable image to clone. Pm me if you need help.
    
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It's not a good idea to clone an image from an HDD to an SSD as go4life already said! Just do a clean install....you'll end in a while because of the new SSD speed! Anyway if you want to try cloning it..you could try with macrium reflect..it should work and it's free.

I have to agree with this as well. A clean install is always better, but especially with Win7/Win 8. Both versions use different system settings when installed on an SSD rather than a traditional HDD. If you have a lot of software/drivers/custom settings, a clean install is pain in the rear, but I think in the long run you'll be glad you spent the time to do so. Ounce of prevention = pound of cure sort of thing.

Your specs list a WD Caviar Black as your HDD so you could try Acronis True Image WD Edition for free version. The only condition is that you have a WD drive connected when you install/run the program, but you can clone to/from non WD HDDs (FYI) as well to/from a WD HDD. Haven't tried it lately (fortunately), but I've had no problems at all with True Image in the past. I cloned my pre-SSD OS/programs single partition 1TB HDD to a single partition 500GB HDD as a back up without issue. The software will automatically adjust for the smaller HDD partition. If you happen to have a Seagate HDD lying around, Seagate also provides a something similar called "Disk Wizard" for free. I suggest trying True Image first, but perhaps another option in the event True Image doesn't work for you.

I've read about the alignment issue nanoprobe mentioned above, and I don't know whether the most recent version of True Image (WD version or retail) will take that into account. You'd have to so some research on that.

In general, I still recommend a clean install, but once you get that finished, you might consider making a back up copy from your new SSD to an aligned HDD. If something goes wrong with your SSD (hardware or software/virus/etc.), you can boot from the back up and clone back.



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