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Looks like read took a bit of a hit, write and copy improved a small amount, and latency dropped a ms. Seems pretty equivalent to me wink.gif
   
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They'll perform equivalently. If you could get the timings on the 2400 down to 9-11-11, it'll be faster though!

Thanks for reply. I was able to play with the ram a bit today and they are indeed very close in speed. However I think 2400 @ 10-12-12-31 1T is slightly faster leading me to believe that frequency is more impactful on performance than timings

2133 @ 9-11-10-25 1T Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

2133 @ 9-10-10-28 1T Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

2400 @ 10-12-12-31 1T Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

look at top 3Dmark (not just 3D11) submissions (HWBOT) and you will have better idea what's for diner biggrin.gif

and yes it's not that much but saying crap like "not at all" is just funny ,you will see this more evident on the next platform

EDIT; this reminds me of all this guys from few years back that would kill you when you recommend more then 4Gb
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look at top 3Dmark (not just 3D11) submissions (HWBOT) and you will have better idea what's for diner biggrin.gif

and yes it's not that much but saying crap like "not at all" is just funny ,you will see this more evident on the next platform

EDIT; this reminds me of all this guys from few years back that would kill you when you recommend more then 4Gb
I'm done here see ya

Not sure why you are irate but my post was to simply find which kit was faster -- 2400 CL10 vs. 2133 CL9

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1st I tried BF3 MP. The only real thing I noticed was that animations of your character were a bit faster and quicker. Meaning that when I revived someone one the motion to res a player was quicker with ddr3 2133. Also, certain player animations seem more natural. For example, watching someone vault over something didn't result them skipping further ahead. All of these seem to suggest, to me connection related. But that's simply not the case.
Is there anyone else that can actually feel this difference? I am putting together a 2011 build and every benchmark I have read seems to point towards 1600+ being pointless for gaming. I have the money but I do not feel like wasting $100+ if it is simply epeen factor. The other benchmarks basically show at the higher resolutions not even a single fps gain. Does it affect minimum framerate at high resolutions at all?
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I absolutely feel a difference, games are much smoother with faster memory than just 1600. For X79, I recommend the G.Skill Ripjaws Z DDR3-2133 9-11-10-28 kit, as it's a bargain for the performance, and it's a great overclocking kit as well. I have run mine @ 2442 9-11-10-26 1T prettyeeasily.

The difference isn't shown in benchmarks because most places only show the average/max FPS, but it's the minimum FPS that's boosted by higher memory speeds. I have done all my testing so far at 1080p, but even without frame time graphs or the like, I can tell you that subjectively, games are noticeably smoother @ 1440p with DDR3-2400 9-11-11-29 1T than DDR3-1600 7-8-7-16 1T using a pair of 680 Lightnings (1438core/7212mem) in SLI.

How much of an effect the memory speed has is dependent upon the graphics card(s), as if you don't have the GPU horsepower to run something well, even DDR3-4000 isn't going to help. However, if you can maintain a decent framerate with your setup, then faster memory enhances what's already there, allowing texture swaps and such to occur much more quickly, and reducing any stuttering by a huge amount.
   
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Personally still thinks 1866 is just the same as 2133 gaming wise...
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I absolutely feel a difference, games are much smoother with faster memory than just 1600. For X79, I recommend the G.Skill Ripjaws Z DDR3-2133 9-11-10-28 kit, as it's a bargain for the performance, and it's a great overclocking kit as well. I have run mine @ 2442 9-11-10-26 1T prettyeeasily.

The difference isn't shown in benchmarks because most places only show the average/max FPS, but it's the minimum FPS that's boosted by higher memory speeds. I have done all my testing so far at 1080p, but even without frame time graphs or the like, I can tell you that subjectively, games are noticeably smoother @ 1440p with DDR3-2400 9-11-11-29 1T than DDR3-1600 7-8-7-16 1T using a pair of 680 Lightnings (1438core/7212mem) in SLI.

How much of an effect the memory speed has is dependent upon the graphics card(s), as if you don't have the GPU horsepower to run something well, even DDR3-4000 isn't going to help. However, if you can maintain a decent framerate with your setup, then faster memory enhances what's already there, allowing texture swaps and such to occur much more quickly, and reducing any stuttering by a huge amount.

Placebo effect to "reason" your purchases and spent money on something that won't make a difference.
The numbers are in, and more than enough testing has been done ( including frametimes to see if there's something min/avg/max fps can't show, sadly no, the frametimes are the same no matter how faster you run your RAM ).
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I've used 1600, 2133, and up to 2666 ram and let me say this; I wouldn't run anything less than 2133. Difference isn't detectable but it's certainly there.
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I've used 1600, 2133, and up to 2666 ram and let me say this; I wouldn't run anything less than 2133. Difference isn't detectable but it's certainly there.

It goes without saying... prove it.

Because theoretically ( if you know how computers work and how games are processed ) and practically it doesn't make any sense at all, and from several tests from various trusted benchmarkers & reviewers have been "mythbusted".
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I've used 1600, 2133, and up to 2666 ram and let me say this; I wouldn't run anything less than 2133. Difference isn't detectable but it's certainly there.

Hey man look.. if you happy with higher bandwidth just like me that's all it matters (latency is becoming less important now days and only good for 2D ) I game all the time and I feel the same way it's very hard to show clear evidence in multiplayer since you can have empty /full server and different ping ,please don't let trolls stand between you and what makes you happy thumb.gif

edit; bandwidth and the amount of RAM is the key,RAM alone won't make huge difference ,what you looking for is balance (play with your timings -tight timings=latency ,use maxxmem or similar for comparison ),same goes for "GPU" power lol look at this ,this is single 570 on my old rig -I'm actualy getting better frames now since i switched to different monitor

http://www.overclock.net/t/1226631/electronista-kepler-fast-enough-to-replace-3-x-gtx-580s/80#post_16675305

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