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Originally Posted by GridIroN View Post

No, it's not but that's not really the point. It may be small, but you can still feel it. I can feel the negative accel on a Goliathus vs the positive on a Scarab. Some people may not notice it at all. Some people hate this type thing and would rather opt for a 3888.

I'm positive I have a better understanding of these sensors than a majority of the people here. Twas a simple comment as a lot of you over exaggerate or feed off others. (As did I when I started researching)

I also use a Goliathus speed and the only way I can trigger an exceptionally small negative curve is to move the cursor relatively slow (though it's not exactly consistent enough for such claim imho). Moving the cursor fast is for the most part positive acceleration. There is no fall off as with my older Xai or Early G500.

Edit: Then again, there are multiple variables to account for. I'm just talking from a general aspect in reference to mentioned surface.

I'm also not saying it's impossible to perceive a different feel either. There are quite a bit of exceptional changes moving from the early Agilent architecture you referenced.
Edited by Skylit - 3/4/13 at 1:32pm
post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by Skylit View Post

I'm positive I have a better understanding of these sensors than a majority of the people here. Twas a simple comment as a lot of you over exaggerate or feed off others. (As did I when I started researching.)

I also use a Goliathus speed and the only way I can trigger an exceptionally small negative curve is to move the cursor relatively slow (though it's not exactly consistent enough for such claim imho). Moving the cursor fast is for the most part positive acceleration. There is no fall off as with my older Xai or Early G500.

Edit: Then again, there are multiple variables to account for. I'm just talking from a general aspect in reference to mentioned surface.

I'm also not saying it's impossible to perceive a different feel either. There are quite a bit of exceptional changes moving from the early Agilent architecture you referenced.

I always appreciate your input, and I am convinced that you know more about these things than I do. But the few tests that I tried with my G500 on cloth left me very skeptical, and there I believe the issue was very noticeable. But you talked about this before and said this problem should be gone in newer implementations of the sensor. The fact that I found the same thing in the M90 does have me a little worried, but I still take your word for it.

As for the acceleration on a hard pad that people complain so much about. I agree. Personally I could not even pick up on it no matter how hard I tried or whatever test I tried to do. In my previous comment I just meant that acceleration could get annoying if it gets bad enough. I did not mean it was that bad on the sensors discussed in the topic. I should have been more clear about that.
Edited by kazuyamishima - 3/4/13 at 1:34pm
post #13 of 15
Multiple variables in effect. Sensor's IPS limitation is tied to a few select factors that can make or break a product.

Luckily, a couple can be covered when choosing a new 9500/9800 mouse, though there is still choice in the matter coming from the manufacturer.
Edited by Skylit - 3/4/13 at 1:44pm
post #14 of 15
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Originally Posted by Skylit View Post

The accel curve from said sensors isn't even that large or bad enough to distort the natural precision curve of the cursor. lol

That's the reason I'm buying a sensei tomorrow. Today I was thinking about that... the sensei curve is a curve yes but it's a thin curva (consisten one) comprared to the rect graph of the da, it's a thick rect (also inconsistent due to the incosistency of tracking movement by pictures).
When I had the xai on the 9HD it wasn't that bad, the form factor and the lift off distance combined with the high tracking rates compensated that "flaw" that, tbh I didn't feel while ingame. I was a better player with the xai than with other mice xD.
post #15 of 15
im pretty sure the new models of the 9500 hardly get any negative accel on cloth pads like the sensei and the raw
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