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Originally Posted by kennyparker1337 View Post

All new articles posted here are "writing by some twit on a webpage."

How do you determine if this is less news worthy than any other thread?

Because its not news... pretty simple smile.gif
http://www.overclock.net/t/365604/is-your-post-really-news-and-some-other-general-info-read-this-before-posting/0_40
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post #42 of 49
Allow me to reply objectively then;
Here are some trending "News" articles in the "News" section at the top of the site that are not really news, and don't really belong there, that have yet to be eliminated, or moved:
http://www.overclock.net/forum/newestpost/1366468
http://www.overclock.net/forum/newestpost/1365467
http://www.overclock.net/forum/newestpost/1366558
http://www.overclock.net/forum/newestpost/1366683

I can see justifying this specific post as not being news, but in the past couple of weeks we've had numerous posts transferred to this section that are news, and some that are not. I was referencing that the majority of the news articles with "Linux" in the title, or OP are generally tossed over here in the Linux forums. This makes sense, but only if you on a similar level toss Windows and Mac specific "news" posts in their respective forums as well. For example, "Windows Blue" not having a start menu either isn't news at all, but its still chilling up there at the top of the site. I don't mean to be rude, but just spitting the "it's not news" argument in our face to any sort of opposition doesn't negate the fact that there appears to be some sort of discerning factor for tossing news articles down here in the Linux forums regardless of whether they contain news or not. I'm just curious, do we have some new rule I overlooked? Are we trying to avoid forum-wide drama and OS wars? Does a particular moderator have something against Linux? Just curiosity.

I'm not really offended by it, it just seems odd that suddenly, we have many Linux themed news articles being tossed down here. Curious more than anything.

PS I know, THIS particular one ISN'T REALLY NEWS - WE KNEW LIBDVDCSS WAS TECHNICALLY BREAKING COPYRIGHT LAW - I GET IT, ITS NOT NEW. THEREFORE IT ISN'T NEWS, but then again, neither was that guy that got shot down the street, but we still saw it aired on television and in the paper the next morning.
    
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post #43 of 49
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There's a law in the US where it's actually illegal to have friends over to watch TV if your TV is 56" or larger as 56" counts as a "public viewing" which violates copyright. There's plenty of outdated laws that will never be enforced.

I guess I am screwed, I have a basement that comfortably seats 10-15 and a screen bigger then 65 inchs.

shame on me, and I wish I gave a crap. Admission is typically a couple of cold brews
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I guess I am screwed, I have a basement that comfortably seats 10-15 and a screen bigger then 65 inchs.

shame on me, and I wish I gave a crap. Admission is typically a couple of cold brews

Welcome to my house cheers.gif
post #45 of 49
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Doesn't the same law apply to anyone using any Freeware DVD player ( ie: VLC ?) regardless of operating system?

I was about to say that. Yes, as far as I know, it's exactly the same situation.

This is one of those cases of don't ask, don't tell, there are lots of laws that follow this rationale, they are never really meant to be put in practice because there is simply no way to enforce them in a practical manner on a daily basis. Maybe the legislator thought, in his ignorance that it could, but many times legislators are not very much in touch with reality, and / or this is one of those situations where everybody pretends that they did something good for society and for the lobbies and the lobbies pretend to their shareholders that they got something meaningful in return and shareholders pretend they also got some reassurance in return, when everybody knows deep down that this is just make believe.

Whatever. This is just like people making copies of CDs to cassettes in the 90s so we could hear the album in our portable cassette players or in the car radio. In some countries this was illegal too, even for personal use, despite the fact that you could buy a myriad of radios and Hi-Fi systems that could record from the CD.
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I was about to say that. Yes, as far as I know, it's exactly the same situation.
AFAIK it's a different situation.

VLC is legal on Windows because the cost of Windows covers the MPEG2 playback licences.
To be honest, I thought many graphics cards covered those costs as well (they have MPEG decoder chips).
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Whatever. This is just like people making copies of CDs to cassettes in the 90s so we could hear the album in our portable cassette players or in the car radio. In some countries this was illegal too, even for personal use, despite the fact that you could buy a myriad of radios and Hi-Fi systems that could record from the CD.
Even now, in the UK it's illegal to rip your own CD's to MP3/AAC/FLAC.

Our copyright laws are broken; both here and in the states.
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Originally Posted by tpi2007 View Post

I was about to say that. Yes, as far as I know, it's exactly the same situation.
AFAIK it's a different situation.

VLC is legal on Windows because the cost of Windows covers the MPEG2 playback licences.
To be honest, I thought many graphics cards covered those costs as well (they have MPEG decoder chips).

Yes and no. Windows 7 (except the Starter version and probably the Home Basic version) and probably some versions of Windows Vista come with an MPEG2 decoder, but Windows 8 doesn't unless you buy the separate Media Center Pack. And even then I'm not sure what the legalese says because you will only be able to playback DVDs through the Media Center and not through Media Player, which is something you can do with Windows 7.
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Yes and no. Windows 7 (except the Starter version and probably the Home Basic version) and probably some versions of Windows Vista come with an MPEG2 decoder, but Windows 8 doesn't unless you buy the separate Media Center Pack. And even then I'm not sure what the legalese says because you will only be able to playback DVDs through the Media Center and not through Media Player, which is something you can do with Windows 7.

I am not really against patents in general. I am filling one currently. However certain things just should not be patentable, and file type and formats and compression types should not be one of them.
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okay wat? for the first time probably, anyone who is not american probably feels like they have more freedom than the muricans. btw, our school's ubuntu had VLC last year, then they purchased win7 and installed on machines with 1GB ram and dual core E2140. but anyway, this is seriously stoopid! (and yes i know thats not how you write it, incase some smartypants come)
     
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