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on amds having 4 sticks holds you back because the memory controllor is on the cpu i dont think it affects intels as the mem controllor is in the northbridge i would bump up the fsb untill you get unstable then bumb up the volts slightly but dont go above 55c full load and 1.5v to be safe
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on amds having 4 sticks holds you back because the memory controllor is on the cpu i dont think it affects intels as the mem controllor is in the northbridge i would bump up the fsb untill you get unstable then bumb up the volts slightly but dont go above 55c full load and 1.5v to be safe
Thanks thats good to know,so it was just an amd problem then,55c full load,yeah thats better than i expected,someone was telling that these QX6700's run pretty hot,at temps between the 70C and 80C stock 2.66Ghz speed under full load.
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You've never overclocked before, and your going for your 1st overclock with a X6800 or QX6700? Are you mad!!! Either CPU is far to expensive for a noob overclocker imo
 
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I'm gonna tell you what I've been telling everyone with this question. At one point a lot have said "Why do you need dual core? Nothing supports it!"... it's kinda the same with quads now. The greatest challenge for the programmers is to make a single threaded app to be dual-threaded; now they'll just do that again and now it should be faster since they've already done it one time.

Now if I had an x6800 I wouldn't upgrade to a qx6700, but hey, if you have none I think the quad is the best.
One last thing, you can always OC the quad to x6800 speeds, but you can't another 2 cores to the x6800 to make it a quad, do you?
Anything that supports dual-core will support quad-core. Programs are written to be multi-threaded, not dual-threaded or quad-threaded.
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Sorry folks i smell BS from this guy (no offence if i'm wrong dude), but who has that kind of money to throw about on a system if they don't research the stuff before hand? Plus the guy is a noob to OC'ing and he wants to start with that equipment? Jesus!!! Do me a favour....lol
 
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Sorry folks i smell BS from this guy (no offence if i'm wrong dude), but who has that kind of money to throw about on a system if they don't research the stuff before hand? Plus the guy is a noob to OC'ing and he wants to start with that equipment? Jesus!!! Do me a favour....lol
People don't have to know how to overclock to have money or like nice things. A friend of mine buys a new top of the line XPS or alienware every 2 years. I've offered to build the systems for him for alot less, but he just wants the simplicity of a pre-built, while still having the best. Don't jump on people until you're sure of it.
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Sorry folks i smell BS from this guy (no offence if i'm wrong dude), but who has that kind of money to throw about on a system if they don't research the stuff before hand? Plus the guy is a noob to OC'ing and he wants to start with that equipment? Jesus!!! Do me a favour....lol
I mean sorry that you feel that way but i am serious about my questions,the reason why i am spending so much money is because i only do an upgrade every 4 years and the way i look at things is when i do an upgrade i like to buy the fastest stuff around at the time,and then i know that i will still have a fairly good system over the next 3 to 4 years,this pc i am using now was a machine i got around 4 years ago and its a 2Ghz pentium 4 with about 1 gig of ram,so a few months ago i decided it was time for an upgrade,and not having all that amount of money at once i have been slowly buying parts as i can save enough money,roughly i have been buying one part each pay i get,like the motherboard one week and another bit the next week.

My last pc i never did any overclocking,but i decided that i want to overclock this time around so i better start leaning on how to go about that,i don't really want to buy a lower end cpu like a E6300 just because its my first time at overclocking,i have to learn at some point.

All the parts i got i did a fair bit of reading about whats the best motherboard to go for etc,but the cpu was the part that i couldn't make my mind up on and i have had the machine fully build except for the cpu which i have been trying to work out if i should go for the QX6700 or the X6800 for the last 6 weeks

All the reading i did on the QX6700 i still couldn't make my mind up,i really had to ask a few people on how they seen the QX6700,to me,i kept seeing the QX6700 as like a downgrade to the X6800 due to the lower clock rate,and i wanted to see if anyone has done the upgrade from the X6800 to the QX6700,and see what there thoughts were.

This is my parts list that i kept while i was picking out all the parts and buying 1 bid each week or every two weeks

CASE Coolermaster CM Stacker 830 Black
HARD DRIVE Raptor X WD1500AHFD 150GB 10,000RPM
POWER SUPPLY Enermax Galaxy 1000 Watt
CPU COOLER Thermaltake Big Typhoon VX
MOTHERBOARD Asus P5W64 WS Pro
GRAPHICS CARD ASUS 8800GTX 768MB DDR3 HDTV 2DVI-I HDCP
RAM 4 GIGS 2 packs of G.Skill F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ 2GB Kit
DVD BURNER Plextor PX-760SA SATA Internal Dual Layer DVD-RW 18x
CPU X6800 or QX6700 undecided

I took some photos while i was building the machine the other day,you can see here that i am serious and not talking bs,i am just anxious to get the last part so i can stop using this old pc and start using the new machine
you can see that theres no cpu yet on that motherboard.

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Sorry for this long reply i felt like i had to justify my thread.
post #18 of 27
That's ok dude, don't mean to be horrible. But there have been so many ppl making false claims about there h/w. I only thought it was suspicious by you being new to overclocking and wanting such a fast CPU. But anyway, that is going to be a seriously fast PC.

By the way, what monitor are you using? You'll need a good one with that GPU, around 21" LCD+
 
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That's ok dude, don't mean to be horrible. But there have been so many ppl making false claims about there h/w. I only thought it was suspicious by you being new to overclocking and wanting such a fast CPU. But anyway, that is going to be a seriously fast PC.

By the way, what monitor are you using? You'll need a good one with that GPU, around 21" LCD+
Yeah thats cool,yeah i have allwasy wanted to learn how to overclock,so this time around i am going to figure it out by reading up on it and if i have any probs i will see if i can get some help on a good forum like this one.

With the cpu it is such an expensive part i wanted to make sure that i got the right one as i am going to be stuck with my choice for a few years,and i was worried that the lower clock rate of the QX6700 might not cut it in future games compared to the X6800 with the higher clock rate,my main reason for having a good pc is pc games, mame arcade games which need as much cpu as you can throw at it,and i do a bit of encoding movies and stuff,like my old p4 2ghz can't even play the 720p or 1080i files without going really choppy and pausing all the time.

For the monitor i am using a 50" pioneer HD plasma which has a vga pc input which i run it at 1280x768 at 60 hertz,that resolution is probably one of the main downfalls of my pc,but even when i used to own the sony G520 21'' monitor i only ever ran that at 1280x1024,so not much difference i spose.

The only thing i wish the plasma had was being able to set it higher than 60hertz because i used to run the sony G520 at 100 hertz

I tried running it in 720p with my radeon card and it looked great through the component but windows doesn't seem to like the 720p format,some websites had the words go corrupt and stuff so i went back to the standard 1280x768 through the vga input which still looks as good as my old sony G520 anyway,i even tried runing it in 1080i but you are forced back down to 30 hertz which has way to much flicker.

I am really looking forward to being able to run rise of nations rise of legends at desent speed as this current pc doesn't seem to cut it with that game.
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Thanks dragosmpi guess your right,apps might not support the QX6700 now but sooner or later they will,and then it will seem worth having the QX6700,your right about overclocking the QX6700 to the X6800 the only thing is i hope i can get a bit more than 2.93Ghz.

If i got the X6800 i was hoping to overclock that to around 3.6Ghz,i just hope the QX6700 doesn't start overheating if i try to go more than X6800 speeds,i guess i would be happy if i could get the QX6700 stable at 3400mhz and not get to hot using air.
As far as I've heard the qx6700 can do 3.2GHz on stock cooling, which is being said to be quite decent, although noisy. With a Big Typhoon and a well ventilated case you should be fine @3.2GHz.
Since the money don't seem to be an issue I'd advice you to give another 90$ on a Pentium D 805 and OC that one for the starters, afterwards you can sell it. OCing ain't so dificult, but screw-ups are possible. You would prefer to screw up a 90$ CPU better than a 1300$ one, won't you? Consider it as a warm-up
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