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torn between antec DF-85 and 1200

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i'm determined to make the plunge and make my own custom loop. i've been in love with the antec 1200 since the first time i saw one, i've just held back til i was ready to spend some real money building my dream machine. right now i'm runnin an FX-8350, ASrock 990FX Extreme4, Sapphire 7950 in a thermaltake Chaser Mk-I, with a thermaltake water 2.0 extreme cooling unit. i like it. it's served me extremely well. but it's not what i wanted, it's what i settled for. my brother also is in need of a new computer, so i feel it's time to bequeath this one to him and build myself a monster.

before i saw the DF-85 i had already figured in my head kind of what i wanted to build using the Antec 1200. please pardon my MS Paint attempt. it's probably the worse thing ever made in paint. i also didn't know at the time that there isn't enough room to mount a 240 on the back where the two fans are. but it should get the general idea across.



i'm getting another FX-8350, an Asus crosshair formula-z 990fx mobo, and two asus 7970's. i figure i'll have to make some modifications to the case to take a radiator up top, because the antec one that's made for it is an aluminum piece of crap. i'm going with copper radiators, and i'd like to go with copper tubes as well. i drew this before i did much research about watercooling the 1200, so now i know that fitting the rear radiator internally is a no-go. i don't want to mount it outside. will a 360 in the front and a 180 up top be enough to cool two 7970's, the cpu and the mobo?

and then, after i get all that done, i find the DF-85. similar size to the 1200, red theme instead of blue, and easier access to front fan filters. also two 140mm fans up top means hopefully a 280 radiator. i also found a used one for pretty cheap, so if i end up destroying the case with my modding attempts i can always turn around and buy a 1200 v3. what i'm not sure about is if the way the drive area in the front is designed on the DF-85, if i can still fit a 360 in the front? or should i stick with the 1200, which i know will fit a 360 in the front thanks to pictures i've seen?

also, tubing. i'd like to go polished copper, because i can get my brother to bend whatever angles i need in his shop. but i was wondering if there is a clear type of rigid tubing that can be bent to angles? i'd absolutely love to go with clear, but having to go with copper won't disappoint me too much if clear would be too expensive or too risky to bend...
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I will say this, IF you really want to watercool your rig I would get something a bit more accommodating for watercooling. I have owned the 1200 and wire management was a pain, not enough room or enough MB holes. You can mod it all to fit, but you can get better cases for the price IMO.
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Originally Posted by jeffblute View Post

I will say this, IF you really want to watercool your rig I would get something a bit more accommodating for watercooling. I have owned the 1200 and wire management was a pain, not enough room or enough MB holes. You can mod it all to fit, but you can get better cases for the price IMO.

+1

I have an Antec 1200 and I thought about watercooling with it as well. You will have to do some major modification to the case in order to make everything fit and keep it tidy. Too much metal in all the wrong places. It can be done, HOWEVER it will take a good amount of work to remove all the unnecessary clutter.
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Are you willing to get your hands dirty and do some work? Neither the DF-85 nor the Twelve Hundred are really made with water cooling in mind. They both require quite a bit of modding to set up a proper loop in them. It's not impossible, but it will take some work.
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i'm fully prepared, and definitely expect, to be modding this case. i've gone though several cases in the past 3 years since i built my first rig in an Antec 900 for myself and then several other rigs for my friends. this is not something i'm deciding on a whimsy. i most definitely AM going to do this. every build i've done has been 1 or 2 things i really wanted, and the rest compromised on looks or price or functionality.

i will no longer accept compromise. i don't care if it takes me all year to to hunt up parts, tools, and mod and tweak the case til i get it just right, nor do i care if it eventually costs more than the initial budget i'm starting with(i'm sure it's going to cost more than my initial estimates already). i hate the switch 810. the haf x is downright ugly. the coolermaster and corsair cases i see used in so many builds do nothing for me. i'm going to learn how to sleeve cables. i'm also building a gaming desk/chair setup in my brother's shop. things to come later will be racing peripherals like steering wheel/pedals and flight controls like a HOTAS and pedals. 3-screen eyefinity, of course.

i've tried to get feedback and advice about this project on several other forums, and everyone says the same exact thing. "blah blah switch 810" or "lawl corsair carbide not antec POS".

i'm not asking IF i should. i'm asking HOW i should.
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