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Overall performance of a 3930K over a 3770K on average is 15%. It's even less when it comes to streaming. Gaming it is roughly the same. If you can catch the 3930 @ MC for 399 or less, get it. Otherwise get newer tech & go with the 3770K & get you a quality video card with all the HP as you can only use one card. I've used both chips & it's a difference in certain programs, but not by an amazing margin....

A 2011 chip is the best you can get & if you got the money. That's what you should get if it meets your needs. The reason I didn't get one is I wanted & needed Thunderbolt. If IVY-E have Thunderbolt, then I will be putting my 1155 setup in a box in the garage...
Um ... yeah but you forgot 1 thing. Once OC'd you can't really compare the 3930k anymore because 3.5GHz w/ 6 cores is definitely going to eat the IVB biggrin.gif
And 3930k will go further than 3770k when OC'd if you have a decent water rig, well you better have since you spent 700$+ on the CPU+MB redface.gif

And if you forgot, welcome to OCN where stock performance is rarely a factor tongue.gif
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Um ... yeah but you forgot 1 thing. Once OC'd you can't really compare the 3930k anymore because 3.5GHz w/ 6 cores is definitely going to eat the IVB biggrin.gif
And 3930k will go further than 3770k when OC'd if you have a decent water rig, well you better have since you spent 700$+ on the CPU+MB redface.gif

And if you forgot, welcome to OCN where stock performance is rarely a factor tongue.gif

I doubt it far as overclocking. I would grab a 2600K & call it a day. @ this point, a 3930K is not worth 500+ bucks to stream video....

OP take a look @ this article & it's many more around the net
 
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Well, really? Go see the OC records for 3770k w/o delidded and OC records for 3930k or 3960x for that matter
Not everyone dares to delid a chip.
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Well, really? Go see the OC records for 3770k w/o delidded and OC records for 3930k or 3960x for that matter
Not everyone dares to delid a chip want to give up the 3 year warranty and kill the resale value for a few hundred Mhz.

It is not all about daring. rolleyes.gif
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Sorry, a lot of this stuff about CPU utilization in regards to changing fps, resolutions, it's a bit too technical and isn't quite right. CPU load will increase if you have a stronger GPU able to pump higher fps, yes, but it has nothing to do with a CPU-GPU relationship. It's just a matter that the CPU will be doing more CPU work, but it still won't be maxing out it's processing, and, even if it was, it would not be bottlenecking the GPU since your maximum FPS will still skyrocket with a titan on a pentium or i7.
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an that. What I said was that when you have a weaker GPU your CPU won't work as hard to max it, while if you have a better GPU, higher FPS therefore the CPU load will increase - for one simple reason - the GPU allows the CPU to work harder.

That's not true at all. Regardless of your GPU strength, your CPU will work hard if a program demands a lot from it. If you have a 4850 on an i7, you i7 will still be working hard to handle a large maxed army battle in shogun. CPU load will increase with higher fps, which may be because of the GPU, yes, but that has nothing to do with 'bottlenecking' or cpu-gpu power relationship. CPU load will increase on higher fps because there are more pathing, collisions, AI, resizing, going on, and it's not a huge increase anyways. You go from a 680 to titan, your cpu load may increase but you are still not going to be maxing out the cpu, or, even if you are, that still won't prevent the titan from outperforming the 680 system.
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This is what's called a GPU bottleneck, when your GPU limits the FPS and your other components aren't being used as they could.

Right... but that never happens. There is no such thing as a GPU bottleneck lol. Your GPU will limit the FPS because your GPU is quite simply, too weak to handle the graphical workload of the program in question. It has nothing to do with the CPU's processing power, less than 2% to do with the PCI Express Controller (hence why an ib pentium will bottleneck tri-sli 680s less than a sb i7, but the i7 will still game better because it'll handle cpu workloadss better and bottlenecking is so insignificant).

If your FPS is lower because of a weaker GPU, and your CPU utilization is lower, that has nothing to do with bottlenecks. Your FPS will be low because either your CPU is too weak, or the GPU is too weak (or both). There is no bottlenecking going on.

Case in point - a Pentium with 2 overclocked Titans will outperform a Pentium system with 2x stock Titans. Because bottlenecking, as you are misusing the word, does not exist.

Cpu = CPU work
GPU = gpu work

with higher fps there is slightly more load on the cpu, but that has nothing to do with the gpu and has little practical impact. Just because the utilization on a cpu goes from 40 to 50% doesn't mean any bottlenecking was going on. CPU is always about minimum fps, and no matter what GPU you have, your minimum FPS will always be the same for a given CPU processing power. Because cpu = cpu, gpu = gpu.

Bottlenecking is when there are 5 lanes on the highway, and 10 lanes of traffic trying to go in. Right now with PCI Express 2.0 and 3.0, where bottlenecking really occurs, we are usually using only 1-2 lanes during rush hour. Only with tri-sli 680s will you have more like 5 fully moving lanes that might have a car merger awkwardly during batman... that's it.

In regards to CPU and GPU performance, the CPU and GPU are just 2 totally different roads. When traffic increases on the GPU, traffic may increase on the CPU road as well, but even if the GPU is maxing out, you at most are just getting a couple cars spilling over on CPU. What really dictates the flow of traffic on either road, is the program. There is no bottlenecking. A titan will max out on a stress test program or high intensity game, and an i7 will max out during a maxed out total-war millions of soldiers battle even with a 3850.
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Now with TressFX turned OFF, my GPU was able to keep 99.3 FPS, and as expected the CPU load increased.

Your CPU load changes on the other cores, that you are 'measuring' here, are hardly significant. They are nowhere near maxing out. Your CPU load also dropped on some cores just as much as it increased on others during the changed settings. If anything this is evidence bottlenecking doesn't exist - you have one core maxing out, but your GPU is able to still perform well, regardless of your cpu being a bottleneck to the program itself.
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Not everyone dares to delid a chip.

And not everyone has a boatload of cash on things that dont matter or provide very insignificant benefit and zero noticeable benefit. Not to mention that many of us enjoy this kind of stuff. I specifically bought the more expensive IB than SB because of delidding, and I wanted to delid (I ended up getting IB for cheaper than SB, which made the decision very easy).

a 3930k isn't going to be better than IB in most scenarios, especially gaming, and even in streaming gameplay, because of it's IPC. The extra cores and threading just isn't going to count in the vast majority of games and programs, and the ones that do care, care very little.
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Well, really? Go see the OC records for 3770k w/o delidded and OC records for 3930k or 3960x for that matter
Not everyone dares to delid a chip.


Dude you have no idea what you are talking about about. It's just like getting some 1600MHz ran & some 2400MHz ram. Only time you'll tell anything major is during benching.... I've had a 3930K & it's not a big difference... So much so, I gave it to my oldest son...
 
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Your CPU load changes on the other cores, that you are 'measuring' here, are hardly significant. They are nowhere near maxing out. Your CPU load also dropped on some cores just as much as it increased on others during the changed settings. If anything this is evidence bottlenecking doesn't exist - you have one core maxing out, but your GPU is able to still perform well, regardless of your cpu being a bottleneck to the program itself.
In that case there was no cpu bottleneck, there was an increase in overall load due to the CPU working "harder" to keep up with the higher framerate. In both benches my GPU is working at 100%

The instance where there is a CPU bottleneck is when my FPS drops to 40 while one of the threads is maxed out and my GPU is working at only 64%, you see... the GPU could pump out more frames, it had room for it, but the fact is the thread being at 100% didn't allow it to do so. Why are you denying something that has been discussed over and over in this website is beyond me.

Your traffic jam analogy is flawed, I understand that the CPU and the GPU perform different tasks but the road, as you put, is the same. How it affects the performance depends on the game.
A game like Tomb Raider, who doesn't make use of every available core, a higher overclock or a CPU with better IPC would be the solution.

While a game like Crysis 3, making use of 6+ cores, in a setup with 2 overclocked titans would benefit from the extra cores, like in this instance, an i5 3570k wouldn't be able to outperform a 3930k.


In the first case, the CPU is the limiting factor and in the second one both the cpu and gpu's are working balls to the walls with every available core (an i5 would have bottlenecked the performance).

But let's simplify this:
If you are running a game at 30 FPS, and your GPU is at 100% and your CPU (let's say a 3570k) is at 50%, your GPU is the limiting factor, you'll only increase the performance with a better GPU or adding a second card.
Now if you are running a game at 30 FPS, your GPU is at 60% and your CPU(also a 3570k) load is at 100%, your CPU is the limiting factor, you can OC your CPU to increase performance (would help both in Tomb Raider / Crysis 3) or get a better one (moar cores - would only benefit a game like Crysis 3), depending on the game you are playing.

This is the only simple way to explain how bottleneck works in regards to total system performance.
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Only time you'll tell anything major is during benching...

Or crunching, encoding, and so on. Not everyone only games. Yeah, if you're only gaming, then the 3930K isn't the right chip for you. Maybe the 3820, if you want an X79 build, but even that is stretching it.
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There is no such thing as a GPU bottleneck lol.
You are now talking out of your arse. Now, i can have a 3770k all i want but if i put in a HD6450 into it, tada why do i get 5FPS and 5% CPU utilization?
Well it's simply because SURPRISE BUTTSECKS! GPU BOTTLENECK BRO.
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