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What's volt modding? Well mine's a 7970 OC with Boost so that's as premium as the R7970 isn't it? But yet my previous card had a 79.8% :/ I've also seen many other 7970s with ASIC of 80% or more..

Also, are you on still on air cooling? Or did you change to a water cooler already? Because isn't lower ASIC better for overclocking only if you're on water cooling? I can't even hit 1170 with 1.381v doh.gif

No that GPU isn't anywhere near as "premium" as the R7970 Lightning I'm afraid to say redface.gif

By volt modding I mainly meant OC'ing with higher voltage. Yes I'm still on air cooling. The stock cooler is amazing on the Lightning and as I said I've reached 1,300 mhz @ 1.3v.

To be honest, I really do believe you're just SOL. At the end of the day you played the silicon lottery, and 1150-1170Mhz is nothing to scoff at, not at all.

You're not going to come to any meaningful conclusion from the ASIC quality. It's not a 'rule' its merely an interesting piece of information supplied by GPU-Z. I can overclock higher than people with much higher ASIC quality than my GPU. And vice-versa for other peoples situations. It means nothing at the end of the day.

Overclocking = Silicon Lottery.
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...And the only reason why I believe it's bios locked is because from time to time on the higher voltages


Boost bios... I hate them.

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Well if it makes you guys feel better my XFX DD 7970ghz edition has an ASIC quality of 64% and I'm stable at 1215 on the core at 1.210v and memory at 1625 on stock volts...

Think the ASIC quality thing is a bit overblown and it really still comes down to luck of the draw.

Omg wait, so ASIC quality has got nothing to do with Silicon Lottery?!


Yes. I'm surprised no one said yes. Asic got nothing to do with overclocking ability.
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No that GPU isn't anywhere near as "premium" as the R7970 Lightning I'm afraid to say redface.gif

By volt modding I mainly meant OC'ing with higher voltage. Yes I'm still on air cooling. The stock cooler is amazing on the Lightning and as I said I've reached 1,300 mhz @ 1.3v.

To be honest, I really do believe you're just SOL. At the end of the day you played the silicon lottery, and 1150-1170Mhz is nothing to scoff at, not at all.

You're not going to come to any meaningful conclusion from the ASIC quality. It's not a 'rule' its merely an interesting piece of information supplied by GPU-Z. I can overclock higher than people with much higher ASIC quality than my GPU. And vice-versa for other peoples situations. It means nothing at the end of the day.

Overclocking = Silicon Lottery.

But why isn't my GPU as "premium" as the R7970? Mine runs at 1000MHz stock too. Maybe the lightning has a better PCB since I heard it wasn't reference? But maybe mine is as well. I'm not sure. Also, the Lightning isn't the 7970 GHz edition is it? It's basically the same chip as the Sapphire 7970 OC, no? :O

But hmm.. it bugs me that I can't even hit the 1200 mark that like 80% of the people can ~_~
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Also using 4.6.0

Changing the voltage works as I said but as soon as it goes into load the voltages drop down to the 1.18-1.20 mark. I've tried setting my voltages to 1.3v and 1.11v just to see what happens and it goes right back to what I said lol. It completely ignores the voltages I have it set to. I'm pretty sure Gabriel is having the same issue as me in terms of Voltage.

And the only reason why I believe it's bios locked is because from time to time on the higher voltages, it'll spike to what I have it set to but that is only when I'm exiting a game or Alt Tabbing. Which is weird. I've had it spike to 1.4v multiple times actually loool. It's not constant just a random spike and then disappears.

Hahahaha could this be a point I can use to get another RMA? tonguesmiley.giflaughingsmiley.gif
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ran furmark and GPU-Z actually shows even lower voltage lol @ 1.13. It says that in furmark too unless im reading it wrong.

MSI AB shows 1.256v though on its graph lol
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But why isn't my GPU as "premium" as the R7970? Mine runs at 1000MHz stock too. Maybe the lightning has a better PCB since I heard it wasn't reference? But maybe mine is as well. I'm not sure. Also, the Lightning isn't the 7970 GHz edition is it? It's basically the same chip as the Sapphire 7970 OC, no? :O

But hmm.. it bugs me that I can't even hit the 1200 mark that like 80% of the people can ~_~

Apparently you can hit 1150-1170 with 1.125V which most other people can't, so there ;-)
Try that other BIOS.

The Dual-X is a midrange card, btw. You know you didn't pay $500 for it.
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ran furmark and GPU-Z actually shows even lower voltage lol @ 1.13. It says that in furmark too unless im reading it wrong.

MSI AB shows 1.256v though on its graph lol

Seems as 1.25V is default for your card. You have to set up MSI AB to show real voltages.
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ran furmark and GPU-Z actually shows even lower voltage lol @ 1.13. It says that in furmark too unless im reading it wrong.

MSI AB shows 1.256v though on its graph lol

Lol that's exactly like mine. FurMark only shows 1.10+v.
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Yes. I'm surprised no one said yes. Asic got nothing to do with overclocking ability.

Well guess I lost in both the ASIC quality and Silicon lottery then? Low ASIC and bad Overclocking ability?
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Apparently you can hit 1150-1170 with 1.125V which most other people can't, so there ;-)
Try that other BIOS.

The Dual-X is a midrange card, btw. You know you didn't pay $500 for it.
Seems as 1.25V is default for your card. You have to set up MSI AB to show real voltages.

Well I paid around $480 USD for mine :/ Also, I tried MSI AB and it showed the same voltages as GPU-Z I think.
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Yes. I'm surprised no one said yes. Asic got nothing to do with overclocking ability.

Well guess I lost in both the ASIC quality and Silicon lottery then? Low ASIC and bad Overclocking ability?


You scored a double Whammy?

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ran furmark and GPU-Z actually shows even lower voltage lol @ 1.13. It says that in furmark too unless im reading it wrong.

MSI AB shows 1.256v though on its graph lol

Lol that's exactly like mine. FurMark only shows 1.10+v.


AB displays the voltage target unless it has been modified to display real voltage. Ghz bios/cards... much dislike.
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