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Lol this is a good thing guys! Jeez, everyone is always looking for nothing but bad things in Microsoft's operations.

Oh and please if you're going to put it in the news section take the time to spell Microsoft out in the topic at least.
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This is good news. They are moving to a newer format with more possibilities as franken mentioned. Its just whenever Microsoft does something everyone gets all upset just because it is Microsoft. And in the future when posting news threads spell out Microsoft, its really not that hard and spelling it M$ makes you look retarded.
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wrong i have 07 enterprize and it is a .doc file
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Quote:
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It's all good. The new pure XML format will be very flexible. Sure, we will all be annoyed for a while...but the trade off is more than worth it. Using SQL based XML queries, you can actually query a document and manipulate the contents using standard SQL syntax. This is going to be an incredible boon for data mining corporate intellectual property.
I agree. The pure XML format will be faster, smoother and will allow filtering and multiple accesses of the same data to be concurrently and securely exportable across multi-platforms whilst being filtered.

One can always save to previous formats and do so as a default if one wishes.
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I agree. The pure XML format will be faster, smoother and will allow filtering and multiple accesses of the same data to be concurrently and securely exportable across multi-platforms whilst being filtered.

One can always save to previous formats and do so as a default if one wishes.
Well...it's not pure-pure. The new Office treats the documents as objects. Then, it serializes them to/from disk. So, it's ugly. But, at least it IS XML.
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Lol, it's Microsoft XML
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Well...it's not pure-pure. The new Office treats the documents as objects. Then, it serializes them to/from disk. So, it's ugly. But, at least it IS XML.
This XML format is far better than the multi-layered XML Reference Schemas of Office 2003. Yes, Offce 2003 produced and consumed XML so in comparision, the 2007 version is a far less layered XML and its "purity" is far less crippled. You could argue that nothing is in fact "Pure" but that is simply a matter of debate and semantics.

Comparision is the method to decide what is in fact a closer approximation to purity on a matter of pure "degree".
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This XML format is far better than the multi-layered XML Reference Schemas of Office 2003. Yes, Offce 2003 produced and consumed XML so in comparision, the 2007 version is a far less layered XML and its "purity" is far less crippled. You could argue that nothing is in fact "Pure" but that is simply a matter of debate and semantics.

Comparision is the method to decide what is in fact a closer approximation to purity on a matter of pure "degree".
Right...in my case, I consider XML purity as a degree of how complicated the node structure is and IF I can xpath the nodes or not. Serialized objects are do-oable, but they are confusing.
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Yes XML is in fact a step in the right direction. And good ole SQL - Its not that hard to pick up if you understand Boolean logic. Kinda the same thing, but different. I'm looking forward to this.
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Right...in my case, I consider XML purity as a degree of how complicated the node structure is and IF I can xpath the nodes or not.
You may find that your definition is not the only one though. In Hebrew school we were taught a method of discourse and debate called "Pilpul". This term basically can be broken down to meaning "The Splitting of Hairs". One takes a question such as "How Pure is Pure" and debates in a group the ramifications of degree of purity.

Usually it can take days and weeks to debate that single question, but almost always the outcome is that degree is comparitive and is subject to the comparitive value of Purity. The debate is to gain points in the ability to split the hair to the most minimal level, not actually the value of "Purity".

100% Pure Orange Juice? Of course, if one looks at the degree of purity and at a molecular level one will find many particles that are not of the orange, were never of the orange, and though possibly on a quantative level, were once of the orange , there is certainly less than 100% purity in that Orange Juice.

Then comes the objective view of "Purity". Setting a baseline for it and measuring to that degree. Still, it is not pure in the classic sense of the term.

Such is the same with XML.
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