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At this point, I simply can't figure out what I'm doing is wrong based on all the articles I read about OC and videos I watched. The heat is not too much of a problem now. On 1.41 vcore, no delid, the 2nd core peaked 85C, but it was hanging around 83~84C most of the time.

My messing around after following the ROG's guide on overclocking the 3770K to 4.7, although I didn't get to 4.7, I was able to get the system reasonably stable at 4.5 or 4.6. By stable I mean small FFT running for about 10min.

Regarding Auto modes, the modes I can get is either Auto, Manual, Offset. So about auto or auto-offset? I'm not quite sure of. Also many times I get STOP 124 as well. It made mention about the QPI/VTT and the vcore. It also mentioned increasing or decreasing. Isn't that not telling you any useful info anyway? I need to know whether to INCREASE or DECREASE? I need to know which to adjust, the QPI/VTT or the VCore?

Finally, how does one determine whether I have a "bad" chip? Because if I cannot even get to 4.7GHz, after how much I've put into the build, I am highly disappointed.
Edited by brenchen - 3/6/13 at 12:11pm
post #52 of 66
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At this point, I simply can't figure out what I'm doing is wrong based on all the articles I read about OC and videos I watched. The heat is not too much of a problem now. On 1.41 vcore, no delid, the 2nd core peaked 85C, but it was hanging around 83~84C most of the time.

My messing around after following the ROG's guide on overclocking the 3770K to 4.7, although I didn't get to 4.7, I was able to get the system reasonably stable at 4.5 or 4.6. By stable I mean small FFT running for about 10min.

Regarding Auto modes, the modes I can get is either Auto, Manual, Offset. So about auto or auto-offset? I'm not quite sure of.

Finally, how does one determine whether I have a "bad" chip? Because if I cannot even get to 4.7GHz, after how much I've put into the build, I am highly disappointed.

46 is a very nice OC. What method of oc are you using? Fixed, offset or turbo? What are your actual settings for all vcore parameters?
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post #53 of 66
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At this point, I simply can't figure out what I'm doing is wrong based on all the articles I read about OC and videos I watched. The heat is not too much of a problem now. On 1.41 vcore, no delid, the 2nd core peaked 85C, but it was hanging around 83~84C most of the time.

My messing around after following the ROG's guide on overclocking the 3770K to 4.7, although I didn't get to 4.7, I was able to get the system reasonably stable at 4.5 or 4.6. By stable I mean small FFT running for about 10min.

Regarding Auto modes, the modes I can get is either Auto, Manual, Offset. So about auto or auto-offset? I'm not quite sure of. Also many times I get STOP 124 as well. It made mention about the QPI/VTT and the vcore. It also mentioned increasing or decreasing. Isn't that not telling you any useful info anyway? I need to know whether to INCREASE or DECREASE? I need to know which to adjust, the QPI/VTT or the VCore?

Finally, how does one determine whether I have a "bad" chip? Because if I cannot even get to 4.7GHz, after how much I've put into the build, I am highly disappointed.

On some motherboards you select Offset for the voltage mode, and then for the actual offset instead of a value you can put Auto (which is just hose boards way of having an Auto voltage), so that's all I meant by that. How are you setting your voltage - is it Auto, Manual, or Offset, and if it is Manual or Offset what values are you using? It sounds like you are in Auto, which is why I suggested that it might be better to switch to fixed for now and run a 1.35V fixed voltage initially. Then you can adjust that as needed for stability, before finally switching to offset when you have a good stable overclock. As for the other voltages, just leave them to Auto or Default for now - there is no need to mess with CPU PLL, VCCSA, or any of the other voltages at this point. Just change the multiplier, the CPU voltage, and the setting for Load Line Control (probably High, or the equivalent on your board).
post #54 of 66
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Well I was trying to hit at least 4.7. Then it just wouldn't work, then I took it down to 4.5. That was fine. Again I bumped it up a bit to try to get it right.

By the way, when I say stable, I only mean 10min of stress testing. Because I want to get to my desired clock before running the 24hr tests.

One other thing I'm not sure if it contributes to anything: I have my ram speed setup to the reported on the ram, which is 2400MHz, 9-11-11-31 1.65v. Would this cause things to go wrong?
Edited by brenchen - 3/6/13 at 12:24pm
post #55 of 66
trty resetting your CMOS and trying all the settings you think should work again

somtimes your mobo will get stuck with a temp bug in the bios that will prevent a feasible overclock from working.
post #56 of 66
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I always get STOP code 124, what does it actually mean? I mean do I need to increase OR decrease the vcore? Or is it the QPI/VTT I should look at? Should I increase OR decrease?

I'm guessing I have gotten a terrible chip. After all I tried to bring it up to 46 and I can't do it. 45 seemed fine. But still required 1.35v vcore.
post #57 of 66
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I always get STOP code 124, what does it actually mean? I mean do I need to increase OR decrease the vcore? Or is it the QPI/VTT I should look at? Should I increase OR decrease?

I'm guessing I have gotten a terrible chip. After all I tried to bring it up to 46 and I can't do it. 45 seemed fine. But still required 1.35v vcore.

124 can be alot of things, but considering where you are in the OC process....it's likely memory timings or vcore. Try down clocking your ram to 1600 while working on the cpu overclock. Once you have that locked, set the ram back to its claimed speed. 1600 is likely the defaut SPD.
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I'm considering of getting a new CPU. They have this service in China where they test all overclocks and report a price depending on the overclockability. The most expensive pricing will be slightly above the RRP, but given that we know it is overclockable to a specific standard, I would rather pay that little extra. You still have your intel warranty anyway.

For example how they do it is:
Guarantee 4.5G 1.250-1.300V ¥2100;
1.200-1.250V ¥2200;
1.155-1.200V ¥2450;
1.130-1.150V ¥2700;
1.100-1.130V ¥3250;
1.000-1.100V ¥3850;

So if I'm happy with 1.1-1.3 range, or even just 1.13-1.15 range, I'd get CPUs that are in that range.
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One other thing that I realised and don't know why. Now I am changing the multiplier in my bios, and somehow although it is saved (ie. the next time I enter the bios, it's still there), I tried to get into it and view it from CPUZ, it doesn't change. And it's stuck on 47.

I tried resetting the CMOS, it got changed back to default 39. When I clock it up to 46 which seemed stable before, it was still stuck on 39. Any ideas? Did I break something?
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One other thing that I realised and don't know why. Now I am changing the multiplier in my bios, and somehow although it is saved (ie. the next time I enter the bios, it's still there), I tried to get into it and view it from CPUZ, it doesn't change. And it's stuck on 47.

I tried resetting the CMOS, it got changed back to default 39. When I clock it up to 46 which seemed stable before, it was still stuck on 39. Any ideas? Did I break something?

go back to the tutorial you started with and make sure all other settings are still correct for overclocking since you did clr cmos.
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