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Originally Posted by martinhal View Post

That's what my understanding is too. I wonder if Haswell will have the same issues ? By the way your folding team rank is Evil... best you get folding or drop two places to 668 - Neighbour of the Beast.

They have an even smaller die for Haswell so it will have issues so TIM will most likely be used again. I like my number! tongue.gif
post #102 of 247
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Originally Posted by Valgaur View Post

They have an even smaller die for Haswell so it will have issues so TIM will most likely be used again. I like my number! tongue.gif

Yes but this time they won't make the same mistake. Their IHS will have better contact with the die. That was the main issue.
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post #103 of 247
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Glad you can take it on the chin! thumb.gif

I got up to page 5 here, and it was suspense all the way for me!

The suspense is still going to be there until thurday when my MOBO comes in! I really hope that pin sized nick didn't break the whole chip!
Edited by RavageTheEarth - 3/5/13 at 12:25pm
post #104 of 247
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Originally Posted by Belial View Post

Link? I've asked about anyone who killed their ivies, delidding or otherwise around here many times. I seem to usually be ignored, but I have only heard about the guy who 'killed' his chip delidding but it turned out the problem was the cup of water he had spilled on his motherboard.... then there was that guy who couldn't run dual channel ram anymore (i still question if his cpu is really the problem there too, i'd be more inclined to believe his mobo, maybe even ram, was the problem) but he got like a 30*C temp drop so I'd say that was worth it.

I just delidded a 3570K yesterday and failed.

I suspect my blade was too thick for it :l
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post #105 of 247
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Link? I've asked about anyone who killed their ivies, delidding or otherwise around here many times. I seem to usually be ignored, but I have only heard about the guy who 'killed' his chip delidding but it turned out the problem was the cup of water he had spilled on his motherboard.... then there was that guy who couldn't run dual channel ram anymore (i still question if his cpu is really the problem there too, i'd be more inclined to believe his mobo, maybe even ram, was the problem) but he got like a 30*C temp drop so I'd say that was worth it.

I've killed 2, although neither were the chip or boards fault, all me. First one wasn't delidded but did kill it with water so that may have been me you mention above, I started up too quick after having it frozen & the cpu & board did not like having water in the socket. The second one was delidded & killing it was how I discovered not to use liquid metal TIM on the die at subzero temps.
Except for my PEBKAC issues 3770ks have been pretty hard to kill. I've delidded 2 with no issues.
    
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post #106 of 247
I also damaged my CPU. A small scratch on the PCB. Running single channel now.
I cheked the pins, mobo and memory. The problem is not there.
But at least it's working and I got 26 C temperature drop.
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post #107 of 247
I would be interested in exactly WHY any of you had trouble delidding. At this point I am reasonably confident I could do any Ivy chip with an almost 100% success rate, but I spent a long time researching it. I read all the guides, and watched all the videos. It also took me a decent amount of time to actually finish because I was going slow and being careful, and I would put the chip down for a few minutes if I felt I was getting stressed or my fingers were tired.

If you do the research, use the correct tools, and go slow and take your time with the delidding process there should be very few failures.

Wearing rubber gloves makes the chip easy to handle, and using a one sided razor that you get from the drug store that are designed to be used in shavers are the best imo. The edges of the razor should never touch the pcb, and you can reach all the way around the chip with the blade by entering from the corner - you never have to push the blade in from the side of the chip.
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I would be interested in exactly WHY any of you had trouble delidding. At this point I am reasonably confident I could do any Ivy chip with an almost 100% success rate, but I spent a long time researching it. I read all the guides, and watched all the videos. It also took me a decent amount of time to actually finish because I was going slow and being careful, and I would put the chip down for a few minutes if I felt I was getting stressed or my fingers were tired.

If you do the research, use the correct tools, and go slow and take your time with the delidding process there should be very few failures.

Wearing rubber gloves makes the chip easy to handle, and using a one sided razor that you get from the drug store that are designed to be used in shavers are the best imo. The edges of the razor should never touch the pcb, and you can reach all the way around the chip with the blade by entering from the corner - you never have to push the blade in from the side of the chip.

I agree with everything you said.

(this is my 2000th post biggrin.gif )
Edited by EpicAMDGamer - 3/5/13 at 2:30pm
     
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If you do the research, use the correct tools, and go slow and take your time with the delidding process there should be very few failures.

It's pretty much like telling a newbie in electronics to go voltmod his GPU/motherboard...

If you don't have the skill or the practice requiered, you WILL fail.
   
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I have killed several pcb from guitar pedal just from soldering. It needs patience and skill biggrin.gif
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