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Hi, havent been online here in a long time. I have been focusing more on my computer networking, windows server, and cisco classes in my high school, and have been away from hardware for a while. however, getting back into it is going to start with a nice little low budget box, that i am building for the family of one of my close friends.

i was given a budget of only $350. however, looking into that, i didn't need to provide a HDD, DVD drive, monitor, keyboard, or mouse. so not too bad of a budget.

I was looking at AMD, but on such a low budget, i didn't want to buy a dedicated graphics card, and am not familiar with AMD's integrated graphics. so i decided to go Intel, and shoot for the best i can afford.

i decided on the Intel i3-2105 sandy bridge. this has the intel HD 3000 integrated graphics, which should be more than enough for this build.

here is the list of hardware i will be using:


$34.99 Antec NEW SOLUTION SERIES VSK-4000 Black SGCC steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

$31.99 Crucial Ballistix 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model BLE2KIT2G3D1869DE1TX0

$79.99 ASUS P8H77-M LE LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 uATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

$44.99 CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 430W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
*-20 mail in rebate

$11.99 ENCORE ENUWI-1XN4M USB 2.0 Wireless N150 Mini Adapter

$114.99 Intel Core i3-2105 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I32105

2 Rosewill Model RCAB-11031 10" SATA III Black Flat Cable
*i used up all my sata cables when i upgraded one of my friends computers, and figured i'd try to stick with a color scheme with this build.

and i have a dell comptuer, which somebody dropped on the back, had the power cable bend the back of the PSU, and fry it and the mobo.
so that will be a nice donor for the DVD drive and HDD

for the HDD, the broken dell has a 320gb seagate barracuda, and i have a 500gb seagate barracuda in my bedroom on a shelf. i will run a HDD test on them and see if either has bad sectors. whichever one is better will be used in the new system, the worse of the 2 will be my storage drive for backups.

i stuck with a nice flat black and blue theme with the whole build, and will try to work in some cable management skills to clean up the inside. if i get the motivation, i might even consider painting the inside of the case, which is bare metal (only a $35 case) I'll post pics as new pieces arrive!
post #2 of 22
Did you already get the i3? Because AMD's integrated graphics are way better, both in performance and in support and standard compliance. I would heavily recommend a Trinity A8 or A10 and an A75 mobo. Also, I would probably go for 8 gigs of lower clocked RAM rather than 4 of high-speed for this build.
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OCZ Agility 3 120gb (Linux) OCZ Agility 3 120gb (Windows) WD Caviar Black 2tb Hitachi 500gb 
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post #3 of 22
I'd recommend an AMD A10 5800k over that Intel. You're getting over double the graphics power, and i'm not sure about the computing power but it should be the same if not better.

AMD A10-5800K - $130
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113280

ASRock FM2A75 Pro4-M - $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157334

G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 2400 F3-2400C10D-8GZH - $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231585

All this over the Intel/H77/4GB Ram is only $37 more, which is worth it.
And thats mostly because of the 8GB of ram, which you need.

Also, you have to get this ram if you get the A10-5800k. It needs fast ram. And you'll need 8GB.

Getting this will go over budget by $6, but you still have a $20 rebate after that.
Its over budget $9 with the cables. But again you still have a $20 rebate.

Enjoy!
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Edited by Traphix - 3/4/13 at 7:26pm
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post #4 of 22
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well its a good thing i posted here! haha. i cancelled my newegg order, which i made about a half hour ago. they havent even charged my paypal yet, so im not worried about them not being able to cancel it. i will look at the AMD chips. why would i need more than 4gb ram? i thought the 1866 ram was good, best deal i could find, had ok times and fast clocks.

i like asus boards, have never used asrock, seems like cheap. i want something that will last.

edit: im not trying to hit right on budget, because any extra is profit for my time spent building the computer. they paid me 350, now i need to build a computer while still making a little profit.
Edited by rocker22dallas - 3/4/13 at 7:52pm
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Originally Posted by rocker22dallas View Post

well its a good thing i posted here! haha. i cancelled my newegg order, which i made about a half hour ago. they havent even charged my paypal yet, so im not worried about them not being able to cancel it. i will look at the AMD chips. why would i need more than 4gb ram? i thought the 1866 ram was good, best deal i could find, had ok times and fast clocks.

i like asus boards, have never used asrock, seems like cheap. i want something that will last.

Because most people can easily hit 4gb ram usage?
And the Ram needs to be fast/8gb because the graphics on the A10 will use some of the Ram for itself, and 4gb is definitely not enough.

and ASrock is a sister company to Asus..
There's nothing wrong with the quality..

My above post is your best choice. And is within budget.
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i agree on the motherboard and CPU. but i am having a hard time going from $30 ram to $70 ram, because then that would be money out of my pocket. yes there is a $20 rebate, but that would leave a $10 bill in my pocket after the rebate. if i can stay under budget, i keep the rest plus the rebate. they will mainly be using it for browsing the internet, and light gaming. i need it to be reliable and quick. if in the future they need an upgrade, i'd be happy to do so.

plus on that ram, the timings are slower and may offset some of the benefit of higher clock speed.

edit: i went with the cheaper ram, which left me at $318, then i paid for 3 day shipping ($24) which puts me up to $342, with $20 mail in rebate, a $30 profit i can live with.
Edited by rocker22dallas - 3/4/13 at 8:29pm
post #7 of 22
I knew you were going to say that. If you're not going to get the 8gb 2400mhz ram, then its not worth getting that cpu and motherboard, and you might as well go with what you choose initially.
I was merely giving you the best for the money, which is what the person you're buying the computer for wants.
And i'm sure if you tell them you went over budget but it was worth it, they'll pay you for it.

The timings don't matter for integrated GPU's, and if you find some Cas 9 2400mhz ram for less than $70, let me know and i'll buy it for you.
Edit: Thats new.. in box.. lol

Also, for reference, this computer will be able to run BF3 on medium settings at 30 fps. Which is pretty good.
More if later on you upgrade to a good cooler, and overclock, which this motherboard can do, and your h77 choice cannot.

And you can add a 6670 to crossfire later too.

And for the person below me. How exactly is 2400mhz overkill. Do you know how fast GDDR5 is?
Also, thats not within budget..

Playing games will take more than 4GB with the A10-5800k.
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Edited by Traphix - 3/4/13 at 8:48pm
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post #8 of 22
The integrated graphics does greatly benefit from the faster ram because the gpu shares a certain amount of it. Saw a video on it somewhere, can't seem to find it though.
I think 2400mhz may be a tad overkill. I know this is overclock.net, but there's also a budget.
Windows 7 seems to need about 1-1.5gbs of ram just to be on, then there would probably be another gig that the gpu would use. It would work with 4gbs but I would suggest preparing for a future upgrade.
A10 mobo, 8gbs ram and psu under $310
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post #9 of 22
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ok ok ok. i did some more digging, found a coolermaster elite 430 case that is for sale $10 instant, another $10 promo, and a $10 mail in rebate, and found a promo for my PSU for another $5 off. so now i can swing it in budget.

thank you for your help +rep, will order the 8gb ram

edit: new cart:

ASRock FM2A75 Pro4-M FM2 AMD A75 (Hudson D3) SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
$64.99

G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200) Desktop Memory Model F3-2400C10D-8GZH
$69.99

COOLER MASTER Elite 430 RC-430-KWN1 Black Steel / Plastic Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811119227
$10.00 Mail-In Rebate Card
-$10 instant
-$10 promo code
$49.99

CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 430W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Suppl
$20.00 Mail-In Rebate Card
-$5 promo code
$44.99

AMD A10-5800K Trinity 3.8GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket FM2 100W Quad-Core Desktop APU (CPU + GPU) with DirectX 11 Graphic AMD ...
$129.99

Rosewill Model RCAB-11031 10" SATA III Black Flat Cable w/ Locking Latch Supports 6 Gbps, 3 Gbps, and 1.5 Gbps
$2.98 ($1.49 ea)

ENCORE ENUWI-1XN4M USB 2.0 Wireless N150 Mini Adapter
$11.99

total: $359.92
total mail in rebates: $30
total profit after rebates: $20.08

that works for me. thank you for your help
Edited by rocker22dallas - 3/4/13 at 8:53pm
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ok ok ok. i did some more digging, found a coolermaster elite 430 case that is for sale $10 instant, another $10 promo, and a $10 mail in rebate, and found a promo for my PSU for another $5 off. so now i can swing it in budget.

thank you for your help +rep, will order the 8gb ram
No Problem, you're welcome!

Whomever you're building this for will be very happy.thumb.gif
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