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post #101 of 20217
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So I have what potentially may be a stupid question...

Is anyone going the route wherein they plug the pump into CPU_FAN header (as is the prevailing best choice) and then running fans off a 3rd party fan controller?

Just checking. redface.gif

Thanks - T

I think that would be a monumentally bad idea. Unless the 3rd party controller is true PWM. I guess it could be a good way to hide your wires for the fans, cable management is a pain. Realistically, its just PWM fans, with a PWM splitter, you can configure them like anything else. There is no rule that says radiator fans need to be plugged into x port for power or control.
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post #102 of 20217
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I think that would be a monumentally bad idea. Unless the 3rd party controller is true PWM. I guess it could be a good way to hide your wires for the fans, cable management is a pain. Realistically, its just PWM fans, with a PWM splitter, you can configure them like anything else. There is no rule that says radiator fans need to be plugged into x port for power or control.

Yeah, prob. not the best idea... I was thinking more along the lines of running fans at higher RPM and letting the pump self-regulate, but that's not advised here? I'm not speaking of PWM fans, FYI... I was talking about something aftermarket, if there were to be a fan swap.

I'm not going to be doing this however, mainly for the reason that I want the management that the PWM offers, but also because I'd probably break it. rolleyes.gif Honesty helps....

Thanks - T
post #103 of 20217
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Yeah, prob. not the best idea... I was thinking more along the lines of running fans at higher RPM and letting the pump self-regulate, but that's not advised here? I'm not speaking of PWM fans, FYI... I was talking about something aftermarket, if there were to be a fan swap.

I'm not going to be doing this however, mainly for the reason that I want the management that the PWM offers, but also because I'd probably break it. rolleyes.gif Honesty helps....

Thanks - T

Haha, well if you're starting to work with other fans / fan controllers and not using PWM you can be really creative with how you set your system up. It sounded to me like you were going to just take the Helix fans and putting them on a controller which weren't going to be PWM. It has already been shown this is a bad idea.

Also, the pump self regulating, isn't really necessary. If you browse a lot through the water cooling section, you'll see that past a certain point (looked like ~ 65-70% on the test loops I've seen in the news thread), temperatures don't drop by adding more flow. Each loop will of course have its own sweetspot where additional power through the pump, will not result in lower temperatures. Once you hit that point on your loop I don't see a purpose in going much higher, you're using more power and making more noise for no gain. This is the primary reason I will be putting my pump on CPU_1 header, and the fan splitter on the CASE_FAN1 header. I can modulate the fans, while keeping the pump relatively independent.
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post #104 of 20217
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Haha, well if you're starting to work with other fans / fan controllers and not using PWM you can be really creative with how you set your system up. It sounded to me like you were going to just take the Helix fans and putting them on a controller which weren't going to be PWM. It has already been shown this is a bad idea.

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Yeah, guess if I'd payed any attention to what I typed... I would have noticed I didn't say CPU_1!
I've been following this and the other H220 thread since WAY back, so I've seen all the nightmares about putting fans that didn't belong in the wrong places, etc... rolleyes.gifthumb.gif
It was just a curiousity, since I have a brand new Lamptron 6-way rheobus at home, and I want to use it, but with what looks like only three case fans going into the new CaseLabs S3 Mercury when I build it, it seems a waste like that...
I think I'll mess with the Helixes on their splitter first, then maybe fiddle with the idea of swaps later... biggrin.gif

Thanks - T
post #106 of 20217
So with this cooler, can we replace the tubing with clear tubing?
post #107 of 20217
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So with this cooler, can we replace the tubing with clear tubing?

Yes. Any tubing color you like. As long as it is the right size. I.D. 3/8" O.D. 5/8"
 
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post #108 of 20217
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So I have what potentially may be a stupid question...

Is anyone going the route wherein they plug the pump into CPU_FAN header (as is the prevailing best choice) and then running fans off a 3rd party fan controller?

Just checking. redface.gif

Thanks - T

It's what I am doing right now. I have the pump set to the CPU_FAN connector then I replaced the fans and all 4 are connected to my fan controller. Temps seem to be great. Hovering around 58 in prime95 and peaking around 62. This is with my 3570k OCed to 4.4 Ghz and vCore at 1.215

Obviously adjusting the fans as needed. I can't set actual PWM percentages in my BIOS and this gives me more control. Still a great product.
Edited by Deeya - 3/7/13 at 4:44pm
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Mine should come when ncix get it, and my Helix 120 (2pwm and 2voltage) will be coming next week.
    
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Has anyone replaced the tubing/know if it is possible? What OD/ID tubing is it?
    
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