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How much noise should this pump make at lower rpms? Mine seems to make a loud buzzing / grinding sound that I can hear from 3 feet away with a closed case at idle temps.

I think Martin posted a video demonstrating what the noise level should be at different pump speeds a few pages back. Yours should be similar to that. If it isn't then please let me know.
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Thanks, I will compare to those videos when I get home today.
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Thanks for the reply.
Do you think that is the case with the gpu at idle? If you stress test your cpu with just the H220, then stress test it with a gpu and rad added to the loop, but with the gpu at idle, what should the cpu temps do?

I guess I am trying to figure out how much heat another 220 or 320 rad with quiet fans can take away, vs. how much heat a gpu not doing much and sitting at idle adds.

There are a lot of different variables to be able to answer this question properly. The quality of the radiators themselves is one of them. I suggest you take a look at Martin's site to get an idea of the type of radiator you're looking to add. Thickness isn't always an indicator of better performance. It's also going to depend on your ambient temperatures and the airflow of your case. Adding another radiator can improve your performance, but if you add an extra component to your loop then that performance increase will be reduced, or negated entirely depending on the added heat dumped into the loop. Having the pump set above the CPU block isn't going to make a difference because you'll have to have a pump added to the loop somewhere. Where the pump is placed has almost no impact on temperatures. I hope this has helped your understanding of how an extra radiator can benefit your loop.
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There are a lot of different variables to be able to answer this question properly. The quality of the radiators themselves is one of them. I suggest you take a look at Martin's site to get an idea of the type of radiator you're looking to add. Thickness isn't always an indicator of better performance. It's also going to depend on your ambient temperatures and the airflow of your case. Adding another radiator can improve your performance, but if you add an extra component to your loop then that performance increase will be reduced, or negated entirely depending on the added heat dumped into the loop. Having the pump set above the CPU block isn't going to make a difference because you'll have to have a pump added to the loop somewhere. Where the pump is placed has almost no impact on temperatures. I hope this has helped your understanding of how an extra radiator can benefit your loop.
Sorry I guess I just don’t understand, also I wasn’t asking about pump position, I was wondering about pump strength.

In the review he added a rad to the H220 and a gpu, then he tested his CPU temps with the GPU at idle. A GPU at idle should be close to room temp and therefore add very little heat to the loop.

When he tested the CPU before and after adding the rad and gpu, his CPU temps increased. This tells me that the H220 does not benefit from adding additional rads in regard to CPU temps.

I have just added your 320 and a GPU to the H220 and my CPU temps remained the same. I can see the GPU under load adding a lot of heat and raise your CPU temps, but I don’t understand why adding rads to the loop does not benefit the CPU temps at least in some small degree with the gpu at idle.
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Sorry I guess I just don’t understand, also I wasn’t asking about pump position, I was wondering about pump strength.

In the review he added a rad to the H220 and a gpu, then he tested his CPU temps with the GPU at idle. A GPU at idle should be close to room temp and therefore add very little heat to the loop.

When he tested the CPU before and after adding the rad and gpu, his CPU temps increased. This tells me that the H220 does not benefit from adding additional rads in regard to CPU temps.

I have just added your 320 and a GPU to the H220 and my CPU temps remained the same. I can see the GPU under load adding a lot of heat and raise your CPU temps, but I don’t understand why adding rads to the loop does not benefit the CPU temps at least in some small degree with the gpu at idle.

Now I understand your question a little better. Even though the GPU may be at idle there is still some heat that it's dumping into the loop. Think of it this way. When you air cooled your GPU the idle temp was higher, wasn't it? This is because even though it's at idle it's still working and therefore putting some heat into the loop. GPUs tend to dump quite a bit of heat into a loop because of their design. Look at my loop for example. I have three radiators and my CPU temps aren't really much better than if I was using a high end air cooler. This is because of the heat being dumped into my loop by my dual GTX 560s. Even with my GPUs at idle my CPU temps aren't much better than they'd be with a high end air cooler. Let me know if this helps answer your question.
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Now I understand your question a little better. Even though the GPU may be at idle there is still some heat that it's dumping into the loop. Think of it this way. When you air cooled your GPU the idle temp was higher, wasn't it? This is because even though it's at idle it's still working and therefore putting some heat into the loop. GPUs tend to dump quite a bit of heat into a loop because of their design. Look at my loop for example. I have three radiators and my CPU temps aren't really much better than if I was using a high end air cooler. This is because of the heat being dumped into my loop by my dual GTX 560s. Even with my GPUs at idle my CPU temps aren't much better than they'd be with a high end air cooler. Let me know if this helps answer your question.
Thanks, that definitely helps, +rep. I guess a gpu at idle adds enough heat to offset the extra rad. Now I think I understand why some go to the trouble of two loops. What GPU temps do you get in your loop when you really stress them?
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Thanks, that definitely helps, +rep. I guess a gpu at idle adds enough heat to offset the extra rad. Now I think I understand why some go to the trouble of two loops. What GPU temps do you get in your loop when you really stress them?

Keep in mind that I also have them overclocked from the stock 822 to 900MHz. They reach a temperature of about 46 degrees maximum with Furmark and an ambient temperature of about 23 degrees Celsius. My CPU though will hit a temperature of about 48 degrees Celsius when the GPUs are at idle and when everything is stressed it will hit a maximum of about 53. Like I said, for a 1090T overclocked to 4GHz that's about what you'll get with a high performance air cooler under the same ambient temperature conditions.
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Where in the world can one buy one of these? They're really interesting, but Newegg, Amazon, Performance PC's, and even the Swiftech site are out of stock. frown.gif
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Where in the world can one buy one of these? They're really interesting, but Newegg, Amazon, Performance PC's, and even the Swiftech site are out of stock. frown.gif

The next retailers that will get them will be Newegg and Microcenter. They should have them in stock sometime this week or early next week.
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The next retailers that will get them will be Newegg and Microcenter. They should have them in stock sometime this week or early next week.
Yipee! I hope Newegg Canada gets some in. Seems it's harder to find some of these new/unique parts in Canada...
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