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Originally Posted by mojojj31 View Post

So I have an opportunity to pick up an Apogee Drive II. I'm wondering if I should switch out my H220 for that instead. I know they're basically the same.

Considering that I'd run my H220 at max of 1600RPM even while gaming, I would think there'd be no difference in performance between the two, right?

Since I'm running the H220 through 3 rads and a GPU block, I'm wondering if the ADII wouldn't be better at the job at lower RPMs.

The reason to get an apogee drive ii in your situation would be for aesthetics, such as to use G1/4 fittings or different size tubing. There will be no performance difference. I have both the AD2 and the H220 and I'll be running the H220 in my mini-Phantom.
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I really like the 410 Phantom cases! Do you happen to have any photographs or diagrams of your setup(s)? I'd really like to see how you fit all that cooling in there! Is it all internal?

Yes it's all internal. Here's the build log.
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post #1472 of 20767
Hey, what are your views on fan/rad shrouds? Cheers.
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post #1473 of 20767
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The reason to get an apogee drive ii in your situation would be for aesthetics, such as to use G1/4 fittings or different size tubing. There will be no performance difference. I have both the AD2 and the H220 and I'll be running the H220 in my mini-Phantom.

So in what situations would you say that the AD2 is needed over the H220. More specifically regarding performance than aesthetics.
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post #1474 of 20767
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So in what situations would you say that the AD2 is needed over the H220. More specifically regarding performance than aesthetics.

For example, if you have 3 GPUs, CPU, RAM, and chipsets all under water with 2 or 3 rads you'd likely need an Apogee Drive 2 over the H220, though you'd be better off with a D5 and Apogee HD for noise. For 3 blocks plus 3 rads or anything under you usually don't need any more power than the H220 can dish out.
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post #1475 of 20767
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Hey, what are your views on fan/rad shrouds? Cheers.

I like cleaning out my comp weekly, so I say f' em lol. Seriously though filters can be a good thing but I only use them if they are much larger than the fans breathing through them and not sitting directly on the fans. I say this because they work the same way an air filter on your car intake. The less restrictive they are, the more air will flow through them. Dust filters are extremely restrictive you want the much larger and sitting away from the fan enough that the fan breath through the whole filter and not just the portion in front of it.
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post #1476 of 20767
alright, you guys have sold me on the Arc Midi R2! I just returned the Antec 302 to Microcenter. Unfortunately, all they carry at MC is the original Arc Midi, so I'm ordering the R2 online now. Until then, my setup is sitting out on a make-shift workbench breathing the open air! smile.gif

As soon as the Swiftech kits start shipping, I'll be sure to snag the parts I need and start a quick/dirty build thread. (I'm probably going to have a ton of questions about fittings and such)

Thanks for all the help so far, I appreciate it!
post #1477 of 20767
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I like cleaning out my comp weekly, so I say f' em lol. Seriously though filters can be a good thing but I only use them if they are much larger than the fans breathing through them and not sitting directly on the fans. I say this because they work the same way an air filter on your car intake. The less restrictive they are, the more air will flow through them. Dust filters are extremely restrictive you want the much larger and sitting away from the fan enough that the fan breath through the whole filter and not just the portion in front of it.

Thanks for your views. smile.gif
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post #1479 of 20767
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For example, if you have 3 GPUs, CPU, RAM, and chipsets all under water with 2 or 3 rads you'd likely need an Apogee Drive 2 over the H220, though you'd be better off with a D5 and Apogee HD for noise. For 3 blocks plus 3 rads or anything under you usually don't need any more power than the H220 can dish out.

Repped. This is exactly what I wanted to know. I can't really see myself going past that many components, so the H220 should stay with me for a while. If it comes to a point where I'll have that many components, then I'll switch to a D5 or MCP-35X.
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post #1480 of 20767
So you guys that have the H220, I take it you are happy? I am going to either get a H220 or the Corsair H110.

Any idea where the hell to buy a h220? No one seems to have them in stock....
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