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post #18501 of 20809
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Hydrx PM2 was discontinued - it will not be back in stock. Grab a bottle of XSPC ECX UV clear concentrate and a bottle of distilled water.

The sight does not mention they discontinued it. Thanks for the tip!
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post #18502 of 20809
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I have looked on the Swiftech site and found the HydrX coolant. But green would not go well with my clear UV blue tubing. So I went for the HydX PM 2 coolant which would be perfect because it is blue, but it's not in stock. I emailed them to see when it would be back but no response so far.

In lieu of that what is a good alternative to the HydrX PM 2 mix that will not clog my loop or void my warranty?

personally I'd recommend mayhems if you want a dyed coolant. possibly EK's blue coolant might be decent too. be aware though that dyed coolants do eventually break down and require more frequent maintenance. there's also the difference between PG and EG based coolants, PG (propylene glycol) is used in the majority of coolants nowadays due to environmental regulations but it's not as durable as EG (ethylene glycol). you can still find pure EG in mayhems XT-1 concentrate (or one of their standard X1 coolants if you prefer PG-based environmental friendly non-toxic coolant) and mix it with one of their dyes. there's premixes too. mayhems is generally the only recommended dye I've seen around here unless newer stuff has surfaced. also stay away from ice dragon coolant it's just hype.

and correct me if I'm wrong but I believe EK is now using mayhems dyes?

I won't get into the differences between dyes and nano-particles, as that's a complicated subject... but also be aware of dye staining or particles which can clog.

also regarding HydX if you read the spec sheets it's just xerex antifreeze, along with their own dyes. It's been proven to require frequent maintenance to prevent clogging. and yes the PM2 was discontinued, I believe it's similar to the stuff they were originally using in the H220/H240 but likely just a PG-based antifreeze. Bryan@swiftech told me they used a 20%/80% mix ratio. This is a bit excessive though, most are 5%-10% (I use 8% XT-1 with de-ion water) but it also depends how pure the original concentrate is (or if it was diluted).
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personally I'd recommend mayhems if you want a dyed coolant. possibly EK's blue coolant might be decent too. be aware though that dyed coolants do eventually break down and require more frequent maintenance. there's also the difference between PG and EG based coolants, PG (propylene glycol) is used in the majority of coolants nowadays due to environmental regulations but it's not as durable as EG (ethylene glycol). you can still find pure EG in mayhems XT-1 concentrate (or one of their standard X1 coolants if you prefer PG-based environmental friendly non-toxic coolant) and mix it with one of their dyes. there's premixes too. mayhems is generally the only recommended dye I've seen around here unless newer stuff has surfaced. also stay away from ice dragon coolant it's just hype.

and correct me if I'm wrong but I believe EK is now using mayhems dyes?

I won't get into the differences between dyes and nano-particles, as that's a complicated subject... but also be aware of dye staining or particles which can clog.

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Thanks very much for the info!
I'd prefer to get a non dye type (which is primarily why I choose the UV tubing) and the more endurable concentrate additive. I had the X1 PG Mayhems coolant on my wishlist at Performance PC's but recently removed it because it was a dye also.

I'd prefer to get a non dye type (which is primarily why I choose the UV tubing) and the more endurable concentrate additive. I just found this Mayhems and will be ordering it today sometime.
Is that what I need?
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post #18504 of 20809
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Thanks very much for the info!
I'd prefer to get a non dye type (which is primarily why I choose the UV tubing) and the more endurable concentrate additive. I had the X1 PG Mayhems coolant on my wishlist at Performance PC's but recently removed it because it was a dye also.

I'd prefer to get a non dye type (which is primarily why I choose the UV tubing) and the more endurable concentrate additive. I just found this Mayhems and will be ordering it today sometime.
Is that what I need?

Yeah that's what I use with their Ultra Pure H2O though it would work with distilled or cheaper de-ionized water. make sure to flush everything thoroughly first, since I'm OCD I ran my system a few times with the cheaper DimasTech® UltraPure Water but flushing with distilled would work too.

I've been going about 6 months now still clear reservoir and no evidence of corrosion or microbes anywhere. you can mix anywhere from 5%-20% probably but anything over 10%-15% would increase temps and increase load on pump. 5% is likely sufficient if just using brass/copper, but I'd go a little higher if you have other metals like chrome, nickel, or silver in the loop too (like maybe 75ml/1000ml)

Edit: TIP: always buy more than you think you need. also if using the XT-1 use gloves, as it's kinda toxic. X1 is non-toxic. and regarding the marketing material, the XT-1 has the same anti-scaling, anti-corrosive, and biological inhibitor properties the X1 has. EG is just more durable at the expense of toxicity. reason why the X1 is more common is because of environmental regulations, same reason most car antifreezes have switched to PG...

Edit2: the clear XT-1 in a clean loop with good water should last years, according to my research. (though of course the manufacturer recommends 1year to sell more, or to account for dirty systems)

Edit3: I know most recommend distilled+PT Nuke, but IMO it's not worth the risk just for a few degrees difference. especially if you're going for longevity. add another radiator or upgrade fans if you need more cooling.



Edit4: also, my previous experience modifying my H240-X with just distilled and PT Nuke resulted in this on a Swiftech Lok-Seal fitting after just a few months (all swiftech parts, just copper, brass, and two of their chrome-plated Lok-Seal fittings):


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The best order is the one that looks cleanest in the case. Liquid temp stabilizes through the loop and is not affected by loop order.


Great, Thanks for the reply!
post #18506 of 20809
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Yeah that's what I use with their Ultra Pure H2O though it would work with distilled or cheaper de-ionized water. make sure to flush everything thoroughly first, since I'm OCD I ran my system a few times with the cheaper DimasTech® UltraPure Water

I've been going about 6 months now still clear reservoir and no evidence of corrosion or microbes anywhere. you can mix anywhere from 5%-20% probably but anything over 10% would likely increase temps too much and increase load on pump. 5% is likely sufficient if just using brass/copper, but I'd go a little higher if you have other metals like chrome, nickel, or silver in the loop too.

Edit: TIP: always buy more than you think you need. also if using the XT-1 use gloves, as it's kinda toxic. X1 is non-toxic. and regarding the marketing material, the XT-1 has the same anti-scaling and biological inhibitor properties the X1 has. EG is just more durable at the expense of toxicity.

Cool thanks! I will be using the primochill sysprep pretreat to clean out my loop.

I will going through the process of possibly filling, draining and refilling my loop a second time. I have temporary Xeon 2670 for my 4930k while it goes in for the intel tuning plan for replacement. I may or may not hook up my complete waterloop with this Xeon chip .... I still have to go through the process of adding in the LED UV lights (I have 4 of the razor led sets and 3 individual UV leds for placement in the darker areas for more even lighting). I also need to research the K2 paste I need to use for my XPSC water block set on my RIVBE MB. At least that is the paste I was told I would need for this waterblock set and thermal pads....
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Cool thanks! I will be using the primochill sysprep pretreat to clean out my loop.

I will going through the process of possibly filling, draining and refilling my loop a second time. I have temporary Xeon 2670 for my 4930k while it goes in for the intel tuning plan for replacement. I may or may not hook up my complete waterloop with this Xeon chip .... I still have to go through the process of adding in the LED UV lights (I have 4 of the razor led sets and 3 individual UV leds for placement in the darker areas for more even lighting). I also need to research the K2 paste I need to use for my XPSC water block set on my RIVBE MB. At least that is the paste I was told I would need for this waterblock set and thermal pads....

I would avoid anything primochill personally, but I haven't read much on that particular kit other than Mayhems arguments that they copied their cleaning kit. also most of those cleaning kits are just acids. vinegar is an acid and usually sufficient, but with any acids be careful not to leave it in the components too long, they will eat copper and brass. There was some threads awhile back about cleaning kits causing XSPC radiators to leak, but this was likely due to structural weak points they "patch up" after manufacturing. copper and brass tarnish but it hasn't shown any affect on temperatures. the reason you see blue or green fluid coming out after cleaning is due to the acids stripping away a very thin layer of the oxidated/tarnished metal. The most important part though is to dissolve any remaining tin or flux from radiators, and any particles that may remain. (I had many black particles come out of my Black Ice Nemesis L Xtreme). and if flushing from a previous coolant, flush many times with just water (be it distilled or de-ionized, or whatever. I usually flush from cheapest to most expensive but I'm OCD about cleanliness)

also, my post you quoted I edited quite a few times since then with more info.
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I would avoid anything primochill personally, but I haven't read much on that particular kit other than Mayhems arguments that they copied their cleaning kit. also most of those cleaning kits are just acids. vinegar is an acid and usually sufficient, but with any acids be careful not to leave it in the components too long, they will eat copper and brass. There was some threads awhile back about cleaning kits causing XSPC radiators to leak, but this was likely due to structural weak points they "patch up" after manufacturing. copper and brass tarnish but it hasn't shown any affect on temperatures. the reason you see blue or green fluid coming out after cleaning is due to the acids stripping away a very thin layer of the oxidated/tarnished metal. The most important part though is to dissolve any remaining tin or flux from radiators, and any particles that may remain. (I had many black particles come out of my Black Ice Nemesis L Xtreme). and if flushing from a previous coolant, flush many times with just water (be it distilled or de-ionized, or whatever. I usually flush from cheapest to most expensive but I'm OCD about cleanliness)

also, my post you quoted I edited quite a few times since then with more info.
Is there a decent guide somewhere that shows how to mix stuff like vinegar and water to clean out the system properly? Also one on mixing the additives and what not would be good....

I purchased the Primochill based on someone else's recommendation but I have not heard anything bad about it either. I do know I need to seriously clean out my H240-X as it is very cloudy in there.

I also need a good idea on how to install the inline tube fill and drain ports since I am not going to use a reservoir, any tutorials on that would be helpful also.. I would prefer not to have to take my whole waterloop out of my system just to drain and fill every once in awhile.
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Is there a decent guide somewhere that shows how to mix stuff like vinegar and water to clean out the system properly? Also one on mixing the additives and what not would be good....

I purchased the Primochill based on someone else's recommendation but I have not heard anything bad about it either. I do know I need to seriously clean out my H240-X as it is very cloudy in there.

I also need a good idea on how to install the inline tube fill and drain ports since I am not going to use a reservoir, any tutorials on that would be helpful also.. I would prefer not to have to take my whole waterloop out of my system just to drain and fill every once in awhile.

I could be mixing up brands here, I'm probably thinking of Feser. your kit is probably fine, don't take my opinions as fact - I've just always used vinegar when flushing radiators and scrubbing blocks, there's some guides on xtremesystems i believe. usually 20%-50% mix ratio of distilled white vinegar with hot (NOT boiling) water. shake it, tilt it, etc, repeat until satisfied and flush with water to get the vinegar and anything else out. I've never flushed an entire assembled system before, it's best to disassemble and clean individually usually. for tubing a coat hanger and piece of an old shirt works well if re-using the tubing. Edit: but since we're talking about an AIO, I suppose it kinda has to be mostly flushed as one unless you disassemble it. also your tubing shouldn't be dirty unless it's been running for a long time. Edit2: also, don't use acids like vinegar on acrylic.

I can't really answer your second question other than to suggest some T-fittings with a valve or cap. the fillport should be at the tallest part of the loop and drainport at the bottom-most part of the loop. be aware the more fittings you add the more chance something can fail or leak too.
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Originally Posted by Madmaxneo View Post

Is there a decent guide somewhere that shows how to mix stuff like vinegar and water to clean out the system properly? Also one on mixing the additives and what not would be good....

I purchased the Primochill based on someone else's recommendation but I have not heard anything bad about it either. I do know I need to seriously clean out my H240-X as it is very cloudy in there.

I also need a good idea on how to install the inline tube fill and drain ports since I am not going to use a reservoir, any tutorials on that would be helpful also.. I would prefer not to have to take my whole waterloop out of my system just to drain and fill every once in awhile.

There is nothing wrong with Primochill - most see it as the best tubing available that is not clear.
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