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post #1961 of 20809
I should have added this to my original post but here it is.

No I did not let the AS5 cure for 200 hrs cause that would take almost year of normal use to get the test results. Look at it this way. Take your AS5 and do not factor in the cure time and you have a average thermal compound. The important thing is the prep and steps taken in my testing. I could have use any TIM for the test but all have ATM is AS5. But if you do not have to reset your heat sink for over a year your temps will just get better over time. It is a win. I do not see why I would have to redo all the tests though. Since I did clean and prep the CPU/heat sink with a fresh application of AS5 before each test. If all it is going to save is 2°C - 5°C over a years time. Which is really nice if you have already waited a year for the AS5 cure time.

As you can see here at Benchmark Reviews "So by my estimation of this statement it would take almost a year of normal use to properly cure the AS5 compound, or almost nine days of continuous power cycles to meet their recommendation."

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=138&Itemid=1&limit=1&limitstart=5
Edited by WiSH2oo0 - 4/24/13 at 6:42pm
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like boiling hot or just "hot" tap water? and yes, i do have 3/8" 5/8" primochill advanced LRT clear tubing and 3/8" 5/8" lok-seal compression fittings.
I posted a few times about that in here. The Swiftech Lok-seal fittings are not really compatible with that Primochill tubing, I found out the hard way. It is not that hard to get the tubing on the barb, but being able to screw down the collet was another story.

You can make it work if you really want to, but you will have to force it. I wouldn’t do it while the fitting is in the block though because it can strip the fitting. I switched to the matching black tubing from Swiftech, others here switched to some XSPC tubing.
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my RMA'ed pump stopped working.. sigh..

I am seriously beginning to lose hope in this system..
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like boiling hot or just "hot" tap water? and yes, i do have 3/8" 5/8" primochill advanced LRT clear tubing and 3/8" 5/8" lok-seal compression fittings.

XSPC tubing works great if you want some that fits without any tricks. 'tis what I and a few others have.
 
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like boiling hot or just "hot" tap water? and yes, i do have 3/8" 5/8" primochill advanced LRT clear tubing and 3/8" 5/8" lok-seal compression fittings.
I posted a few times about that in here. The Swiftech Lok-seal fittings are not really compatible with that Primochill tubing, I found out the hard way. It is not that hard to get the tubing on the barb, but being able to screw down the collet was another story.

You can make it work if you really want to, but you will have to force it. I wouldn’t do it while the fitting is in the block though because it can strip the fitting. I switched to the matching black tubing from Swiftech, others here switched to some XSPC tubing.

well thats just freakin peachy. in other words, i'll have to wait until next week to watercool the video card then unless i pay for overnight shipping. -______-

edit: is there ANY other type of compression fitting that is known to not work with this primochill tubing?
Edited by Diablo85 - 4/24/13 at 7:18pm
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There again is where many people forget or misunderstand the design goal of the radiator. The radiator's goal is to cool the liquid. If you try to give the radiator two jobs; i.e. cool the liquid and remove hot air from the case, you'll only get less effectiveness in both applications rather than applying 100% of the effectiveness to cooling the liquid in the first place.

Just try it, (the cool air IN through the radiator from outside the radiator), but make sure that your other fans don't lock the airflow up in an important corner somewhere, (adjust as needed). You'll see what the difference is and that'll be based on your outside ambient temp which will almost undoubtedly be cooler than the inside of that case.

Remember, just like "darkness is the absence of light", "cold is the absence of heat". You're not trying to cool off the CPU with the radiator fans, you're trying to cool off the liquid, the CPU temp will follow as an incidental result.

I've got to get back to work, I'm not even supposed to be here:p
Rich

Look, no one is disputing that all intake will result in cooler temps. I'm stating that there may not be enough fans in exhaust to expunge hot air from the case adequately enough. Especially so if your ambient room temperature is high enough. Alas, it's personal preference, I would rather my case internal temperature remain low as well and would be willing to sacrifice a few degrees to achieve that.
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I posted a few times about that in here. The Swiftech Lok-seal fittings are not really compatible with that Primochill tubing, I found out the hard way. It is not that hard to get the tubing on the barb, but being able to screw down the collet was another story.

You can make it work if you really want to, but you will have to force it. I wouldn’t do it while the fitting is in the block though because it can strip the fitting. I switched to the matching black tubing from Swiftech, others here switched to some XSPC tubing.

Still kills me that the 5/8 OD tubing is actually closer to 3/4". How do they fail that, I mean really.

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Look, no one is disputing that all intake will result in cooler temps. I'm stating that there may not be enough fans in exhaust to expunge hot air from the case adequately enough. Especially so if your ambient room temperature is high enough. Alas, it's personal preference, I would rather my case internal temperature remain low as well and would be willing to sacrifice a few degrees to achieve that.

One is usually sufficient, unless you have very bad airflow, with physical barriers creating dead air zones. All fans essentially point airflow into the center, and one fan pulls air from the center and pushes it out of the case.
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Noob questions. When reading core temps, which ones do you guys particularly pay attention to, 0, 1, 2, 3 or package? I see people here posting temps but not sure which cpu temp they refer too. Also, how long after water cooler installation do you see maximum results of decrease temps? I've heard in some places you have to run it for 24hrs first.
30 min after installing h220 i have average temps of (i5 3570k):

core 0 =28
core 1 =19
core 2 =21
core 3 =29
package =28

Thanks guys!
post #1969 of 20809
well now that i've got tubing (xspc) and more compression fittings (bitspower ultimate) on order to be overnighted from frozencpu, my installation should of the H220 should be able to commence on saturday. had to order new fittings because i nicked the edge of the lok-seal fitting i attempted to fit the tubing onto earlier.
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Noob questions. When reading core temps, which ones do you guys particularly pay attention to, 0, 1, 2, 3 or package? I see people here posting temps but not sure which cpu temp they refer too. Also, how long after water cooler installation do you see maximum results of decrease temps? I've heard in some places you have to run it for 24hrs first.
30 min after installing h220 i have average temps of (i5 3570k):

core 0 =28
core 1 =19
core 2 =21
core 3 =29
package =28

Thanks guys!
Idle temps on a lot of chips are not very accurate. When people talk about a single temp they should be talking about the max temp of their hottest core under load. People should refer to what load the cpu is under though since gaming temps will be one thing, Prime95 can be about 20c hotter than that, and IBT temps tend to be even a little hotter.
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well now that i've got tubing (xspc) and more compression fittings (bitspower ultimate) on order to be overnighted from frozencpu, my installation should of the H220 should be able to commence on saturday. had to order new fittings because i nicked the edge of the lok-seal fitting i attempted to fit the tubing onto earlier.
Yeah, I had to force the Swiftech fittings on the Primochill tubing and it definitely scratched them up. I got new fittings and the Swiftech tubing so it will be much easier when I put it together this time. Let us know what you think of the new fittings, I would be interested in your comparison of the two.
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